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Haukur

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edited my comment to clear things up. And sorry for if I seemed like I was being iffy. But it is something that they know within themselves. Some deny it for untold reasons, such as religious persecution, social ostracism, or any other host of reasons. Don't ever think the reason I am peaceful is because I do not know how to be violent.
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14-Mar-2018 14:18:11

Maynne

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For me, the concept of consenting adults doing something in-private, unless they break a specific law of a country while doing something in-private -----> let them be. Specific dogma of a group cannot be used to restrict the freedom of determination of other individuals that have nothing to do with that particular group.

No one has a right to question how, who and why a person loves another person. Expression of love of a person towards another person, that is no one else's business. Respect consenting adults choice of how, why and who to love.

14-Mar-2018 16:43:56 - Last edited on 14-Mar-2018 16:45:52 by Maynne

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Personally, I believe that anyone, regardless of their choices, should be able to love whomever they desire. I am nobody to judge you on the basis of the person you are with. That is your choice; that is your life. Even if I were related to that person, it still isn't my business to try to interfere with their lives and happiness. As long as you are content, I see no reason why anyone else should inquire about their business. Let them be.

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14-Mar-2018 16:50:30

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I read an article recently which was pretty interesting, it was about young people identifying as an opposite gender, proceeding with surgery, then regretting it later in life.

Makes you wonder if people now a days are actually completely thinking through their choices,or being influenced by society. It's a pretty sensitive topic at least but i also thought this was pretty interesting and the thought had occured to me before.

If a straight person truly believed they were gay/lesbian, then later found they were in fact not (beauty of exploring sexuality), then they could quite 'easily' go back to being straight. However if they were to have surgery in order to have a sex change, it's far more difficult to 'come back' from it, and in some cases you're stuck with that life choice. given how publicised becoming transgender is now, it's easier to transition into the opposite sex than it was say 10 years ago.

Seemingly these situations are starting to pop up more frequently and i believe they will continue to.

Caitlyn Jenner if a prime example, she's thinking about de-transitioning back due to sex change regret.

I guess people don't have access to complete information, and although encouraged to follow through with sex changes and are supported, aren't aware of the consequences later in life. I don't mean for that to come across in a negative way, i just mean if people are going to make life changing decisions, then they have to at the very least be aware that they are literally making life changing decisions that they may not be able to come back from. So impulsive, rash decisions can hinder you instead of giving you the freedom you wanted in the first place of becoming the gender you truly thought you were.

There's also a case of a transgender woman criminal who was placed in a male prison. Which i imagine will have a lot of issues and putting her life at risk. I believe it was because she wasn't recognised as a female.

14-Mar-2018 20:44:21

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blues said :

There's also a case of a transgender woman criminal who was placed in a male prison. Which i imagine will have a lot of issues and putting her life at risk. I believe it was because she wasn't recognised as a female.


I would like to think because the penal system is much different than any other system.

Sad to say, but there are potential criminals (innocent until proven guilty, after all) who will lie about how they identify so they can get assigned to the opposite gender/sex prison and...you know...

So the prison system, as a precautionary measure, goes by genitalia rather than the psychological aspects.

Is it "right"? That is debatable.

Is it understandable? Absolutely.
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19-Mar-2018 07:07:44

Shady Nick

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Maynne said :
For me, the concept of consenting adults doing something in-private, unless they break a specific law of a country while doing something in-private -----> let them be. Specific dogma of a group cannot be used to restrict the freedom of determination of other individuals that have nothing to do with that particular group.

No one has a right to question how, who and why a person loves another person. Expression of love of a person towards another person, that is no one else's business. Respect consenting adults choice of how, why and who to love.


I have the right and the responsibility of decency to rightly judge and prosecute incestuous lovers. Blankets statements arent all that bright to throw around. You forgot about incest.

19-Mar-2018 08:10:00

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Shady Nick said :
Maynne said :
For me, the concept of consenting adults doing something in-private, unless they break a specific law of a country while doing something in-private -----> let them be. Specific dogma of a group cannot be used to restrict the freedom of determination of other individuals that have nothing to do with that particular group.

No one has a right to question how, who and why a person loves another person. Expression of love of a person towards another person, that is no one else's business. Respect consenting adults choice of how, why and who to love.


I have the right and the responsibility of decency to rightly judge and prosecute incestuous lovers. Blankets statements arent all that bright to throw around. You forgot about incest.
The topic was about LGBT, not incest. And incest includes the straight.

Yes, you do have the right to judge (freedom of speech), but you're not the law. Let them do the prosecuting. Unless you mean persecuting, in which case do your thing as it's your opinion.
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19-Mar-2018 09:10:52 - Last edited on 19-Mar-2018 09:22:47 by Ancient Drew

Maynne

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Shady Nick said :
Maynne said :
For me, the concept of consenting adults doing something in-private, unless they break a specific law of a country while doing something in-private -----> let them be. Specific dogma of a group cannot be used to restrict the freedom of determination of other individuals that have nothing to do with that particular group.

No one has a right to question how, who and why a person loves another person. Expression of love of a person towards another person, that is no one else's business. Respect consenting adults choice of how, why and who to love.


I have the right and the responsibility of decency to rightly judge and prosecute incestuous lovers. Blankets statements arent all that bright to throw around. You forgot about incest.


Out-of-context reply there from you. Remember the thread's topic LGBT. My post focus exclusively with regards to LGBT. Way to go putting words into my mouth. lol

19-Mar-2018 11:14:18

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• Share your experiences dealing with, encountering, or witnessing discrimination against LGBT persons.
Never experienced any of the above.

• What is your country/society's attitudes towards the LGBT community?
Historically it was indirectly illegal to be homosexual but it was never really enforced because it was always a live and let live attitude.
Currently same attitude in general people don't really care what way others swing.

• What are your opinions on Gay Marriage? Is it legal in your country?
Complicated I think it should be legal and it is legal however the way they went about making it legal basically undermined existing constitutional protections for the family unit.
Despite Civil partnerships already existing the government needed to distract from other issues so they rushed through a referendum on gay marriage and worded it very poorly which basically meant instead of Gay Marriages having the same protections as a normal marriage all marriages are now basically less protected.

• What is something you wish society could understand about LGBT?
I wish they would understand its not a pressing issue we have bigger fish to fry.

• Do you believe that homosexuality is caused by genetics or environmental factors?
Take a little bit of this and a little bit of that and mix it up with mountain dew.
I'm not educated enough in that field to form a belief either way.

• Is there an adequate representation of LGBT in the media (including gaming industries)?
I think forced quotas in any aspect of a democratic nations are a bad thing.

• What're your views on gender-neutral bathrooms?
A non issue, many places have always had shared bathrooms.

• What're your current opinions on the human rights violations against LGBT persons around the world (such as the death penalty for homosexuality)?
I would be shot at dawn by the modern left for suggesting you look at the dominant religion in countries and states that still have this (hint they all adhere to Sharia Law).

16-Apr-2018 01:42:59

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