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Jan

2003

Tuffty

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The posting of Blacklists, Whitelists or any other form of exclusionary lists on threads in this forum is absolutely prohibited. Member lists do not come under this, so long as they are solely used for the purpose of denoting members of, and standing within, the clan.

Blacklisting is where a player is ignored due to past role-playing experiences. This is in-game and should remain so. It should not be posted on threads under any circumstances. Please use in-game facilities (such as ignore lists, personal and clan) for this, but do not advertise it. Blacklists are often used to name & shame, which is off limits, and to make examples of "bad roleplayers". This should never be encouraged. Instead, do your best to help.

In FSR in Roleplacing but it does say Clan too. So it's covered. Yes it's not been updated in ages but it still counts.

I remember the thread was made by Mod Kalaya. I usually have a copy of any rules but it must be on my other hard drive which I can't access right now. It's not plugged in lol.

As for the thread. I'll keep chasing it up. Comprehensive Account Security

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02-Jun-2019 20:26:26

NexOrigin

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FSRs only apply to the specific forum in which they are posted. lol

That's why they're literally called Forum SPECIFIC Rules.

The blacklisting rule that applied forum wide was in the Code of Conduct.

I wish I knew where my old copies of the Code of Conduct were... they're somewhere... probably... or maybe they've been deleted at this point... but... being a digital pack rat, I'm inclined to believe that they are buried under multiple directories of entire harddrives....

When I get a new harddrive, I generally make a copy of my old drive, and copy it to the new one... just in case I need something... so I literally have entire harddrives from 20 years ago, backed up within folders of other harddrives... within other folders of harddrives... lol. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

02-Jun-2019 20:33:28

Jan

2003

Tuffty

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Just because it says FSR doesn't mean it's just for that section. It covers the forum trust me.

I have the CoC from 2005, 2009 and 2013 but can't see nothing about Blacklist.

I do get what you are saying though it's not really anywhere. Lets just say it's an unwritten rule thats still in force but not used much if at all.

I have not asked or removed a Black list in that long I can't remember what year it was.

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02-Jun-2019 20:45:52 - Last edited on 02-Jun-2019 20:47:16 by Tuffty

NexOrigin

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It's just a shame that a billion dollar company can't even manage to properly upkeep their own website.

Years ago, when the CM team and the web devs were active on the forums, things actually got done. Bugs were patched... features were added... the rules were updated to coincide with how the community wanted the forums to be run... and then suddenly, everything stopped, and Jagex started using social media... and the forums were left to rot.

We can't even get a consistent template for the FSRs. It's like no one from Jagex has even bothered to look at the FSRs. If they had, they'd realize that some of them are written in micro font that is even hard to read on my 50" monitor.

It just baffles me how much money Jagex earns, and how little of that goes into their own website. They'd rather just subcontact it out to other companies. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

02-Jun-2019 20:47:15

NexOrigin

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Tuffty said :
Just because it says FSR doesn't mean it's just for that section. It covers the forum trust me. Yes, it LITERALLY means that those rules are specific to that forum section... FORUM SPECIFIC RULES.... rules specific to that forum section...

Dude.. come on man... if they were forum wide rules, they would be in the Code of Conduct.

Trying to claim that the FSR for the Roleplaying section applies to Off-Topic is absurd.

Think about it for a moment.

Someone reads the CoC, and then reads the FSR for Off-Topic... and makes a post.

You're suggesting that they should have somehow known that they weren't allowed to do something because it's written in rules posted in a completely different forum section, a section that they may never even use in their entire life.

Come on Tuffty... you know that's not how it works. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

02-Jun-2019 20:50:53

Jan

2003

Tuffty

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I can't disagree. Thats why I hate Social Media so much these days. Seeing the forums struggle is heartbreaking. I just hope this year or soon it's addressed.

Lets take small steps and get that other thread sorted and work up.

Thats the only place I can find with Blacklist in. It used to be in Clans too. Clans had a major makeover with lots of sections gone so the Blacklist rule went too.

I know what you are saying I do. But it's all we have to work with right now. The fact is it's not used and not had any threads asked to remove a blacklist in years. Anywhere. Comprehensive Account Security

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02-Jun-2019 20:50:58 - Last edited on 02-Jun-2019 20:53:19 by Tuffty

NexOrigin

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Tuffty said :
Lets just say it's an unwritten rule thats still in force No, let's not say that.

Unwritten rules are not rules.

You can't hold someone accountable to a rule that isn't written anywhere.

That's ridiculous.

Those are kinds of things that drove so many people away from the forums when the "Catch-all" rule was in place. A rule that simply allowed mods to make up rules to suit their needs. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

02-Jun-2019 21:00:11

NexOrigin

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As for FSR being applied across the entire forums, let me ask you something.

Are the actions of an FMod final? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

02-Jun-2019 21:01:14 - Last edited on 02-Jun-2019 21:01:28 by NexOrigin

Jan

2003

Tuffty

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Ok lets agree to disagree.

I have to go now as it's 3 hours past my logout time. Not that I'm going cos of the questions I really have to go.

Was fun replying and clearing a bit of air here.

I will follow up on that thread.

As I said it's been years since anyone had a blacklist removed. So I see no issue unless they post 1 and flame them. Then it can be requested removed or edited. Still falls under Flaming no matter how you look at it. That does cover it.

Anyway been fun as always. Have fun take care and bye byeee. For now anyway.

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02-Jun-2019 21:05:07

NexOrigin

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We can't agree to disagree on what the rules are... >_<

That's not how rules work. lol.

By your logic, all FMod actions are final, and they cannot be challenged at all.

Which, you know, isn't true, and is the whole point of FMR.

But, since this is posted in the FSR for the item discussion section, it must be true for the entire forums, and FMR can be deleted:
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What if I think the moderators are wrong?
Forum moderators are hand-picked by Jagex and will make decisions based on their training and game knowledge. Though those decisions may not reflect what you think, their actions are on behalf of Jagex, and are therefore final.
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02-Jun-2019 21:16:33

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