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Nexus Origin

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Dong U Dead said :
Here is my version:


I also have a feeling mechanics have adopted the word, I don't know if it's all mechanics or what. But from my readings, there is no sighting that I can see on the internet about the use of the word Retard in mechanic language unless I type mechanic and retard together. But under the word Retard on all my finding it is in regards to a persons disability.

That is the exact same definition that I quoted above, and I specifically highlighted the portion in which it states that it is related to the slowing of something's progress. Yes, it also lists the informal (slang) definition of the word used as a noun, but it first defines the formal use of the word. The proper use of the word.


The word "retard" is not specific to mechanics. It is not specific to anything, unless you're using it as a noun in it's informal form (slang) which would be deemed offensive.

A verb is a descriptive word. It is used to describe something. You can retard anything that has progress.

Remember the movie "Anger management"? Do you remember the trailers for the movie?

https://youtu.be/fCRUnZJJaJE

"I'm going to need you to retard your anger".

This is not offensive, as it is being used in it's proper form, in a non-offensive context.


If I retard my water tap, I'm not referring to the mental state of my water tap. I'm slowing amount of water that is being allowed through the tap.

If my ISP retards my internet connection, it has nothing to do with the mental development of my internet connection, it means they are throttling my internet speed to a slower speed.

If you only dress your child in fire retardant clothing, you're dressing your child in clothing that has been treated to slow the spread of fire.

If I retard the growth of a bonsai tree through watering and pruning, it has nothing to do with the mental development of the tree. I'm slowing down the growth of the tree.
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07-Dec-2018 22:44:42 - Last edited on 07-Dec-2018 22:49:44 by Nexus Origin

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You're specifically ignoring the proper definition of the word, and going straight for the improper use of the word, and deeming the entire word in any context offensive.

That's not how the rules of language work.

And what happens when you ignore these rules?

Nexus Origin said :
When you ignore these rules you end up with fucked up interpretations.
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07-Dec-2018 22:53:56 - Last edited on 07-Dec-2018 23:10:47 by Nexus Origin

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Dong U Dead said :
But as I said it's not about the word or meaning, it's on a more personal level I suppose, it's very clearly written here:

Dong U Dead said :
Yes, we all know that words have different meanings, but there are certain words that aren't kosher to use, not really appropriate, or people get offended by it.
It's not the word its self but what the word represents
or represents to themselves.
Again, I need to stress that words are not personally defined by individuals. Words have specific meanings. They have specific definitions. How a word makes you feel doesn't change the meaning of the word.

Here's a question...

Why is yellow allowed? Aren't there are people with xanthophobia?


The answer is that we allow yellow in our society for the same reasons we don't limit language use based on individual cases of onomatophobia; it's a personal issue.

If seeing a commonly used word in it's proper use elicits negative feelings, then that's something you need to personally address.

You need to come to terms with whatever incidents have occurred in your life that have caused you to feel this way in regards to seeing the word, as there are clearly unresolved feelings.

We don't censor all of society based on personal issues of specific individuals.
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07-Dec-2018 23:09:04

Averia Light

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In all fairness, I can totally see why there would be a misunderstanding in both the cancer and retard scenarios. After all, similes exist and both words are commonly used as a derogatory simile.

That being said, I would never use either word in a professional setting or even informal setting where I did not know all the parties. I have used both words privately, although I stopped using retard in the 1990s.
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08-Dec-2018 00:31:14 - Last edited on 08-Dec-2018 00:34:11 by Averia Light

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Averia Light said :
In all fairness, I can totally see why there would be a misunderstanding in both the cancer and retard scenarios. After all, similes exist and both words are commonly used as a derogatory simile.

That being said, I would never use either word in a professional setting or even informal setting where I did not know all the parties. I have used both words privately, although I stopped using retard in the 1990s.


Idk, it's kinda like the use of the word "nigger" i am in no way racist, i am just using it for this example...

A white guy calls a black guy it, not acceptable

A black guy calls a black guy it, acceptable

A good friend of a black guy calls a black guy it " in a non malicious way" acceptable.

I know this because i have black mates that i can say it to because they know it is not said with malice.

That's just an example of how a bad word can be used in a way as to not cause offence.
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08-Dec-2018 00:54:50

Nexus Origin

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Averia Light said :
That being said, I would never use either word in a professional setting or even informal setting where I did not know all the parties. I have used both words privately, although I stopped using retard in the 1990s.
Was that choice yours, or did someone make that choice for you?
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08-Dec-2018 01:27:59

Averia Light

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Scouse said :
Averia Light said :
In all fairness, I can totally see why there would be a misunderstanding in both the cancer and retard scenarios. After all, similes exist and both words are commonly used as a derogatory simile.

That being said, I would never use either word in a professional setting or even informal setting where I did not know all the parties. I have used both words privately, although I stopped using retard in the 1990s.


Idk, it's kinda like the use of the word "nigger" i am in no way racist, i am just using it for this example...

A white guy calls a black guy it, not acceptable

A black guy calls a black guy it, acceptable

A good friend of a black guy calls a black guy it " in a non malicious way" acceptable.

I know this because i have black mates that i can say it to because they know it is not said with malice.

That's just an example of how a bad word can be used in a way as to not cause offence.


This is entirely up to the individual, which I believe Nexus is arguing against.
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08-Dec-2018 01:56:22

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