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Telcis

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Are you forgetful?
I already asked you which country you wanted to know about and you flatly refused.
Ill ask again.
Telcis said :

Would you like to share the name of the country?
Had a look at some first world countries, couldn't find one that doesn't consider libel/slander/defamation a crime.

29-Aug-2018 23:33:42

Raleirosen

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Wolfblue42 said :
I didn't mean simple angry disagreeing, I meant that people are intimidated to the point of firings and blacklisted and not allowed to speak on it further. I doubt they will say the same thing and get fired again due to the first result, so its becomes a forced when in rome thing.

I'm aware of the massive scale difference that saying donald trump sucks in the usa=no punishment whereas criticizing saudia arabia king in saudia arabia=getting 10 years in prison and 500 lashes. And any generic dictatorship country criticism in said country=death/prison. Yes I know things are 10000% better in the west compared to those, didn't feel the need to bring up dictatorships as that's what happens when one side controls everything.

I just meant there are things that make the concept not working to 100% either fear of losing a job over bad comments. To the shrinking line of whats acceptable to say compare archie bunker dropping a n bomb (a show in the 70s) to papa john and paula deen today. I just think the current state is you can say anything
but
(racism,drugs,sexism,anything that pisses people off) or curl into a ball if you do. I just fear that line shrinking further with how some people turned out after x headline.

I just think so long as people are intimidated away from certain point of views we aren't at that perfect spot. Sure as hell better than those dictatorships but still think people will be too scared to say certain things publicly. that's far more nuanced than what I interpreted your earlier comments to mean. I agree entirely, so apologies for being caustic. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

31-Aug-2018 05:42:44

Team Skull
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Bel Tiamat said :
Freedom of speech is very important but sometimes u should just shut up and listen.

Not referring to you specifically here, but:

When your ego is the size of Jupiter, your ability to shut up and just listen to another person is kinda...difficult. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

31-Aug-2018 12:49:37

Thunder Jinx
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Bel Tiamat said :
Freedom of speech is very important but sometimes u should just shut up and listen.
I agree with this 100% as long as it goes both ways. But for the majority of people uttering this statement it only goes one way.
If someone is saying something very wrong you should easily be able to disprove them and if they're saying stupid things you can just let them ridicule themselves. They will be seen as clowns like the flat earthers.
Darkness rises when silence dies.

31-Aug-2018 14:25:56

Nead
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In 2018, anyone can say whatever they want. There's a dark, echoing corner for every opinion.

The only opinions truly listened to are those based off fact and relatable cause.


Freedom of speech is therefore important if you lack support for cause.
- Ornery Onions -
Prioritizing inclusion, friendliness and offering a helping hand to those that need it.

31-Aug-2018 16:39:48

Bel Tiamat
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Team Skull said :


Not referring to you specifically here, butt...

Eeeeeewego eeewego... Dear God, please send the competition, feels like there ain't any.
I long lost count of the victories, there were just far too many.

01-Sep-2018 09:18:39 - Last edited on 01-Sep-2018 13:45:35 by Bel Tiamat

Bel Tiamat
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Thunder Jinx said :
They will be seen as clowns like the flat earthers.

I have a twist on the flat earth that u've not thought about before (I however do not believe it to be true, the earth is definitely round) but it might be interesting for u to think about - all of our most favourite game, Runescape.

Runescape is 3d apparently but it appears on a flat screen (that's not the exciting part but that's one consideration)...

Here's the fun part. Runescape is round, it has coordinates, clue scrolls etc. Runescape is also flat, the sections of the game (that used to take moments to load... U know, when u're running along and it loads the new area that u enter?) Those areas are square, and flat.

Thirdly, and maybe least exciting of all, we stand in squares - u know, u move 1 space to the east, 3 spaces north etc. They're squares, made to appear round, with coordinates (which is something for round things).

So runescape is a flat and round world.

Runescape is fiction. Fact is, the world is round. Dear God, please send the competition, feels like there ain't any.
I long lost count of the victories, there were just far too many.

12-Sep-2018 08:12:17 - Last edited on 12-Sep-2018 08:24:54 by Bel Tiamat

Moolestation

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is free speech important?

free speech is what america was founded on and let there people keep guns , and created the most powerful country on earth and helped so many countries gain there freedoms from the tyrant kings and queens through its military power.

so yes free speech is very important if you like freedom.

if ur having to debate this u might be a dumbo

15-Sep-2018 02:10:47

Nexus Origin

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The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms gives all Canadians free speech.
The Canadian Human Rights Act takes it all away.

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