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Telcis

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Yingyangboy6 said :
Telcis said :

Had a look at some first world countries, couldn't find one that doesn't consider libel/slander/defamation a crime.

Prove it.
No thanks, Ill just assume your angry and making up lies.
Seems to be some correlation between salt content and your response becoming less and less credible. Worth investigating another time maybe.

29-Aug-2018 06:34:23

Telcis

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Yingyangboy6 said :
Telcis said :

No thanks, Ill just assume your angry and making up lies.

Then your argument is worthless, to be fair.

That which is asserted with no evidence can be dismissed with no evidence.
Glad we agree, that we can dismiss your posts as you have provided no evidence and even refused to when asked.

29-Aug-2018 06:59:57

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29-Aug-2018 09:10:58

Telcis

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@Jaydos would you consider posting without addressing the topic as spam?
I'd recommend you click your name in this post to see my thoughts on the matter but I don't want to derail nor hijack this thread.

To reiterate my position regarding free speech.
There is a point at which speech no longer helps the community and can certainly be harmful towards it, this should be the limit to freedom of speech.
If people want to have the type of discussion that is considered harmful, it should be done in a controlled environment.
By that I mean all sides should be equally represented to put forth ideas.

29-Aug-2018 09:29:23

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29-Aug-2018 12:10:58

Wolfblue42

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Raleirosen said :

my comment


Quotings a nightmare god.

I didn't mean simple angry disagreeing, I meant that people are intimidated to the point of firings and blacklisted and not allowed to speak on it further. I doubt they will say the same thing and get fired again due to the first result, so its becomes a forced when in rome thing.

I'm aware of the massive scale difference that saying donald trump sucks in the usa=no punishment whereas criticizing saudia arabia king in saudia arabia=getting 10 years in prison and 500 lashes. And any generic dictatorship country criticism in said country=death/prison. Yes I know things are 10000% better in the west compared to those, didn't feel the need to bring up dictatorships as that's what happens when one side controls everything.

I just meant there are things that make the concept not working to 100% either fear of losing a job over bad comments. To the shrinking line of whats acceptable to say compare archie bunker dropping a n bomb (a show in the 70s) to papa john and paula deen today. I just think the current state is you can say anything
but
(racism,drugs,sexism,anything that pisses people off) or curl into a ball if you do. I just fear that line shrinking further with how some people turned out after x headline.

I just think so long as people are intimidated away from certain point of views we aren't at that perfect spot. Sure as hell better than those dictatorships but still think people will be too scared to say certain things publicly.

29-Aug-2018 19:10:43

Yingyangboy6

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Telcis said :
Yingyangboy6 said :
Telcis said :

No thanks, Ill just assume your angry and making up lies.

Then your argument is worthless, to be fair.

That which is asserted with no evidence can be dismissed with no evidence.
Glad we agree, that we can dismiss your posts as you have provided no evidence and even refused to when asked.

Don’t have to prove negatives, much like how an atheist does not have onus to prove their position. It is even a fallacy to shift the onus onto me.

You made a positive assertion it IS a crime, so onus is on you to prove it with irrefutable evidence. Otherwise, your argument is worthless.

I would like to see your proof.

29-Aug-2018 21:02:34 - Last edited on 29-Aug-2018 21:03:33 by Yingyangboy6

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