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Jack Flac
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Earnshaw30 said :
I see all the nutters that post on the mal current events forum are slowly migrating to the off topic forum You say that as if it's a bad thing.... Leader of The Enemy ||
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16-May-2017 14:19:26 - Last edited on 16-May-2017 14:20:04 by Jack Flac

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Raleirosen said :
We're speaking English on an English-language forum. What the word means in Japanese has no relevance here; in any English context, "anime" refers to Japanese animation. It's not elitism, it's simply the word's definition. We already have the general term "animation," we don't use a loan word from Japanese to mean the exact same thing.

Avatar: The Last Airbender and shows like it are either anime-styled or Western anime, or whatever other qualifier you prefer.

i Revive said :
You're wrong as per Merriam-Webster and Oxford Dictionary.

Sorry let me restate, Avatar: the Last Airbender is not anime. Thanks.

Jakir said :
If you want to start some elitist "anime can only come from japan1010101" idiotfest then you are completely ignoring the fact that the made in Japan goldstandard nation of anime Gods consider Avatar to be anime. So they are the only ones good enough to make "anime" but they are not good enough to value their opinions on it???

It is not an American word, nor is it a word with Japanese roots. It is a straight up Japanese word, the meaning of which you have chosen to ignore because it suits some pretentious elitist ideal along the lines of a katana isn't a katana unless it is forged in Japan.

17-May-2017 01:34:06

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Jakir said :
It is not an American word, nor is it a word with Japanese roots. It is a straight up Japanese word, the meaning of which you have chosen to ignore because it suits some pretentious elitist ideal along the lines of a katana isn't a katana unless it is forged in Japan. You're the one ignoring both meanings. If you were using the Japanese definition then you'd include Wallace and Gromit and The Lion King as examples of anime. If you were using the English definition then we wouldn't be having this discussion.

In English, anime is a reborrowed word used to refer to a specific genre of animation (i.e. Japanese). This is how language works, please stop digging yourself into a hole. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

17-May-2017 01:45:33 - Last edited on 17-May-2017 01:47:07 by Raleirosen

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Anime is an English loanword that has been re-appropriated by English speakers to mean cartoons produced for a Japanese audience. Nobody in the western world uses anime to describe Scooby-Doo and pretending otherwise is disingenuous.

Jakir said :

along the lines of a katana isn't a katana unless it is forged in Japan.
No, it has to be folded over 1,000 times.

17-May-2017 01:59:47

i Revive

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Nobody has chosen to ignore anything. Literally go on Oxford Dictionaries website and type in the word anime.

b-b-but muhh elitism why can't muhh avatar be anime wahhh

Like Raleirosen has explained, Japanese and English are TWO DIFFERENT LANGUAGES. Anime, as used in the English language, refers strictly to animation originating in Japan. Anime, in Japanese, refers broadly to "animation."

Go be stupid elsewhere.

17-May-2017 02:07:48

Jack Flac
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Icy Spring said :
Anime is an English loanword that has been re-appropriated by English speakers to mean cartoons produced for a Japanese audience. .

For what it's worth, people think of Speed Racer as a cartoon, and not an anime, when it was actually made in Japan.

Reality is, it's all aboout perception. Western fans apropriate the term to animations made in a specific style, not nesscacarily made in Japan. Just because the studio that makes it is outside Japan, doesn't mean it isn't an anime. It all comes down to the stly in which it is made.

If the studio which made saay Death Note, were to have been outside Japan when they made it, yet still made it the same way, it would still be considered an anime. Leader of The Enemy ||
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17-May-2017 02:09:25 - Last edited on 17-May-2017 02:14:09 by Jack Flac

Raleirosen

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Jack Flac said :
For what it's worth, people think of Speed Racer as a cartoon, and not an anime, when it was actually made in Japan. What people think isn't always correct.
Jack Flac said :
Reality is, it's all aboout perception. Western fans propriate the term to animations made in a specific style, not nesscacarily made in Japan. I don't even have a problem with Avatar being referred to as anime, the problem is that anytime it happens this old pointless argument comes up. People just need to add a qualifier to "anime" and avoid the headache, the extra syllable(s) won't kill 'em.
Jack Flac said :
If the studio which made saay Death Note, were to have been outside Japan when they made it, yet still made it the same way, it would still be considered an anime. No, I guarantee that people nerds would still flip out if people called it anime. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

17-May-2017 02:17:29 - Last edited on 17-May-2017 02:19:14 by Raleirosen

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