Was distracted for most of the morning so didn't go to look while early evening was only another lad there and we didn't see anything (was most likely tucked up for bed) and then by 4:30 it was getting too dark anyway.
However I did see the tail end of a murmaration, I'd seen groups coming over while looking for the other bird and on th way back to the van watched them for a few minutes before they went down to roost (recorded it), say there was definitely thousands present.
31-Dec-2014 17:49:47