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ShallPrevail
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Kings Abbot said :
So what the player count is low? So what the pandemic didn't boost as much as you think it would have? It's impressive the game has been going on for more than two decades and doesn't seem to end soon.

You just showed that the player count is very stable despite no PvP for more than a decade. Certainly looks like we we don't need it after all!

I most certainty did not think we were going to grow through the pandemic with the games current state, I expected Jagex to add in more community aspects to the game that it had in the past, aspects that gave RuneScape the rep it has to this day. Instead they somehow managed to remove the iconic wilderness and dual arena?

That rep that RuneScape created is why the numbers are * somewhat * stable, we don't know what would've happened if that pandemic didn't happen and people are willing to stay through droughts and with a corrupted company because of the good times RuneScape brought and still does bring to a bare minimum may I add. It's like a revolving door where people get bored and quit, and others come back after years and years to check the game out and then they quit.... etc.

Eventually, the numbers will dwindle at a very fast rate, it's only been 10 years since EOC was released and eventually those returning players that replace the ones that quit will stop returning because everyone knows how boring the new RS3 vision is, and we all know it hasn't and won't change.............The lack of respect Jagex gave to PVP will haunt their investment, it's not even the PVP aspect but it's just about supporting a fun environment for players.


For some reason you seem fine with letting RS3 possibly die, so I'll leave you be but keep in mind, stable low numbers are just not good for any company, especially one that had the name for the most popular MMORPG of all time at one point.........If RS3 goes down it would even impact OSRS, the name RuneScape would be tarnished
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30-May-2023 06:14:44 - Last edited on 30-May-2023 06:18:38 by ShallPrevail

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Kings Abbot said :
ShallPrevail said :

because everyone knows how boring the new RS3 vision is,



Andddd the opinion of about over a million players who quit RS3. No spoilers needed.
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30-May-2023 20:06:04 - Last edited on 30-May-2023 20:06:27 by ShallPrevail

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Tenebri said :
ShallPrevail said :
Kings Abbot said :
ShallPrevail said :

because everyone knows how boring the new RS3 vision is,



Andddd the opinion of about over a million players who quit RS3. No spoilers needed.

andddddd the ones that have stayed?

Are probably going to leave at any time because the games bad? I've never seen so many people AFK in my gaming life.

Obviously this update would be inviting for the ones that stayed, just because they stayed without any updates for PVP and minigames doesn't mean that they would leave if we got a update? When I returned 4 years ago, I played for 2-3 years trying to level up my character and when I finally did I was petrified to see how much Jagex lacked in terms of inviting, fun, creative community content to play compared to what RS2 supplied.

If you wanted to challenge yourself with a group of friends or clan members or anyone, what would you currently do in game aside from PVM? Before we would have castle wars, the wilderness, fight pits, soul wars, PVM, construction houses, dungeoneering AND MORE and these were amazing content pieces that everyone was ecstatic about, and for good reason.

On a day of the Necromancy update video and the new gold cape/beach event, on peak hour times we currently only have 28,000 people online RS3, I really don't think we gained that many players. I really don't want to get into how many of those players are either hackers, afkers, multi loggers and other things.... We can see the numbers drop drastically.


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I designed this minigame so it's inviting to every soul on RuneScape, if you're a Skiller, PVMER, PVPER, Quester or anyone else, there would be some benefit for you to partake in this activity and even potentially get these players to mix their skills into something they may not think they would originally like.
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31-May-2023 00:54:04 - Last edited on 31-May-2023 01:12:21 by ShallPrevail

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It's not meant for the AFKERS, it's meant for people who want to play RuneScape, so if you have 1-2 hours to spare or more and want to challenge yourself and get rewarded, then you can do so in this new iconic Minigame doing whatever you love to do on RuneScape.


Yes, if you love to PVP, PVM, Skill and such you'll have more of a benefit than players who only like to PVM or Skill but that shouldn't take anything away from the concept of the minigame, it's about creating something fun and engaging for everyone and encouraging to try new things in a safe environment.
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31-May-2023 01:18:05 - Last edited on 31-May-2023 01:20:31 by ShallPrevail

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ShallPrevail said :
Tenebri said :
ShallPrevail said :
Kings Abbot said :
ShallPrevail said :

because everyone knows how boring the new RS3 vision is,



Andddd the opinion of about over a million players who quit RS3. No spoilers needed.

andddddd the ones that have stayed?

Are probably going to leave at any time because the games bad?]

we have just had the teaser for necromancy. and people seem to be excited for that. so i dont see how your statement holds any water.

if the game is so bad, why have you come back to it?
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31-May-2023 01:27:00

ShallPrevail
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@ Tenebri

Because I care about the people and what this game could and should be, I'm a good person who try's to help in everyway possible and I'm sure you can imagine how shocked I am to see how bad RS3 is doing compared to what it used to be with RS2 or just in general.

I have no idea how you seem to think people are excited for Necromancy and why that would hold value for everyone that is currently playing the game, yes of course some people are excited but that literally means nothing at all., especially to potential returning vets or brand new people who may potentially play RS3. As I said before RuneScape has always been a community driven game and RS3 is far from that.

The game is stale, Necromancy will bring in new temporary content that we play through with a permanant combat style, this means nothing at all in the long term and yes of course there are things we don't fully know about Necromancy but it's been 10 years and I am not going to put a bet on Jagex and Necromancy... It doesn't even support PVP at all, how is this better than my idea that supports everyone that would play the game, it's about creating a staple piece of content that resembles what RuneScape is about.


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I came back because I trusted Jagex to make the game that it was named, which was RuneScape3. RuneScape has always been a grind game and I understood that thing's weren't going to be easy at first so I put my work in and in the end it was misery as I noted before.

When I hit this point of misery I then questioned myself because I am most definitely not a misery type of person, and I tried to understand why I didn't like the game at all during the 2-3 years I played and then it all fell in front of me, how bad the current company did and they obviously never created anything good before, so it made examining all their mistakes very easy.


As a humanity we should learn from this, never sell a master piece to rich people, because they have no idea what to do besides get rich
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31-May-2023 01:33:34 - Last edited on 31-May-2023 01:59:53 by ShallPrevail

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@ Kings Abbot


Yes essentially that, this minigame would be the Sauce for the meal and every few years Jagex would update the rewards just like we would put new Sauce on a new meal.


Extra Saucy is the goal here.



but if you meant source, I'll leave you to do your own digging as I did.
If you don't know how to, a easy view to see where the RS2 player count went is to look on RuneScapes front page on the top right it has a player count, then go to OSRS's front page and look at that player count, subtract the two and you'll then have two numbers, the RS3 players and OSRS players that are currently playing.

Currently there are 94,000 players on OSRS at this moment.

Currently there are 25,000 players on RS3 at this moment.

It's pretty scary if I were going to shrug my shoulders at a 25,000 online player count with most of those players being hackers, AFKers, multi loggers and more.

RS3 try's to lure people to play their game by conjoining OSRS and RS3's player count for their website but anyways that's almost 4X the difference, and take into account RS2 had similar numbers 10 years ago, so no growth and human population growth is something to consider as well in terms of company success and failure for RS3.



Also if you go on Twitch you can see that all the highest viewer counts are for games that are either entirely PVP orientated or have PVP inside their game, some of the games are even recently made going a few years back so we can see where new players are going or at least what successful company's are doing, while RS3 hangs by a thread may I add.

RS3 has never been focused on PVP and they haven't been successful, RS2 and classic were heavy on PVP which is one of the reasons why they were so successful. Yes OSRS dabbles into PVP and is able to carry their 100,000 stable current players playing #'s but no new person interested in gaming is going to drift into a OSRS environment.
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