RuneScape Forum Archive | Rares:Inflation & Manipulation

Jan

2012

Norne

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I don't really have any power or ability to influence things, sorry. "When history witnesses a great change, Razgriz reveals itself... first, as a dark demon. As a demon, it uses its power to rain death upon the land, and then it dies. However, after a period of slumber, Razgriz returns, this time, as a great hero"

19-Sep-2020 07:03:49

Mr Gatsby

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I mean you have as much as power/influence as any other player.... I just wanted to see your perspective on the matter if you cared to comment-assuming you aren't barred from doing so-if not that's okay too. W2's local swapper on the SW block, Trades broker, and PvP Events Host

Gatsby#8485

19-Sep-2020 07:12:04 - Last edited on 19-Sep-2020 07:13:08 by Mr Gatsby

Mr Gatsby

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ELITE STACK said :
Another idea: Add more discontinued items

1. White and black hween mask: Obtained by killing Halloween themed monsters Zombies/edimmus etc same droprate

2. Black partyhat: obtainable from party pete after popping 400 balloons in the party room. can only obtain 1.

Short term this will shift focus toward these items so ppl can either buy one of the following rares or get a classic rare for cheaper.

Adding new rares might be a good idea after we get new high tier pvm content. Why not add a black and orange partyhat to keep the balance, make them obtainable by a non-tradeable cracker and then change the christmas cracker name to "Festive Cracker" or "Party Cracker" and add those new phats to the table.

As for hweens the set of 3 seems complete imo. W2's local swapper on the SW block, Trades broker, and PvP Events Host

Gatsby#8485

20-Sep-2020 07:20:54 - Last edited on 20-Sep-2020 07:24:05 by Mr Gatsby

Mr Gatsby

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Something that I think might be interesting is hero weapons with niche abilities and boosts like the hero items, or maybe a cape...or is that what the max cape+ is for lol-although if it was a cape it could maybe be act like a max cap/comp. Maybe a pocket slot item would be best suited. W2's local swapper on the SW block, Trades broker, and PvP Events Host

Gatsby#8485

20-Sep-2020 07:26:32 - Last edited on 20-Sep-2020 07:30:30 by Mr Gatsby

mudk ip

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u cannot add more items to runescape, there has been tons of new items and no content to match the powercreep,

example the previous update has cut a whole 30seconds from my 4.30 amb solo

so im now at 4:00 amb solo no aura

u cannot add new rares every year, theres only vets left in rs, do u want no players in rs? LOL

re-releasing rares, same situation

jagex in a hole, mtx=gold sink LOL

25-Sep-2020 02:35:43 - Last edited on 25-Sep-2020 02:36:03 by mudk ip

Mr Gatsby

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mudk ip said :
u cannot add more items to runescape, there has been tons of new items and no content to match the powercreep

yeah, items alone won't do anything for sure since updates need to be balanced

mudk ip said :

u cannot add new rares every year, theres only vets left in rs, do u want no players in rs? LOL

re-releasing rares, same situation

the idea that they can't ever re-add existing rares on banned accounts is kind of silly if it comes to the point where most of a particular item is on banned accounts. Especially if the player base grows significantly. Of course they shouldn't reintroduce them such that the rares to player ratio is the same but if there is the need to restore the item count partially then they should. The best way would be to manually sell them to players at the going rate perhaps on the cheaper side of things, then it would be more of reintroducing those certain items (not all) to the market rather than re-releasing them in a way that they are technically not discontinued (at least for that time). Any ideas like this will obviously be seen as re-releasing rares still and met with backlash that's why it is probably best done covertly.

Will there ever be an inventory related need to reintroduce a rare to the market? Maybe, maybe not.

The suggestions below are things that could be changed now though with the first just being a QoL update, and the second is an item rework to improve that item without worrying about the implications that it might have on rares which it really shouldn't have any. That's something that should be polled though because maybe people like the item as is.

Mr Gatsby said :

2) Shard/shard pack accessibility update asap as a Ninja fix ( qfc link is in my signature ).

3) Polling chromatic partyhat rework suggestions.
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Gatsby#8485

25-Sep-2020 16:58:50 - Last edited on 25-Sep-2020 17:00:07 by Mr Gatsby

May

2017

Disrobed

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I'm not sure if anyone has floated this idea, but I think they should consider looking into an algorithm that is able to keep tabs on each individual player's wealth, and cap it at a certain point. There shouldn't be anyway around this; the player can be happy with a reasonable number (say 75-100B bank cap).

Soup

26-Sep-2020 01:21:57

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2014

ELITE STACK

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Disrobed said :
I'm not sure if anyone has floated this idea, but I think they should consider looking into an algorithm that is able to keep tabs on each individual player's wealth, and cap it at a certain point. There shouldn't be anyway around this; the player can be happy with a reasonable number (say 75-100B bank cap).

That wouldn't work. Someone can have like alot of wealth without any rares and that 100b cap will prevent them from picking up items while pvming or skilling for example. I need my blue charms back.

26-Sep-2020 01:51:28

May

2017

Disrobed

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True, it wouldn't allow for picking up other items while skilling or pvming, but there has to be a way to de incentivize certain players from manipulating other players for personal financial gains in the first place.

I think that's sort of the core of the issue; i haven't really bothered complaining about the rampant problem we are talking about before because i think the very behavior that is fostered in a "free market" is "profit profit profit above all else", so naturally you're going to have players lean towards malicious practices to benefit themselves because it isn't illegal, it's relatively commonplace, and it's almost encouraged by the market itself because the only rule of law is profit.

I really liked someone else's idea of adding wealth/trade taxes (no, i havent played any other MMO lol so I havent seen what that might look like), and I also like the idea of very strict tracking of individual trades on these high value items, and a higher degree of transparency, but there also aren't that many players (from what i can tell the percentage seems relatively low compared to other players) that can even afford to be, or are interested in, trading in high-value rares to begin with.

Soup

26-Sep-2020 02:05:01

Mr Gatsby

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Disrobed said :
I'm not sure if anyone has floated this idea, but I think they should consider looking into an algorithm that is able to keep tabs on each individual player's wealth, and cap it at a certain point. There shouldn't be anyway around this; the player can be happy with a reasonable number (say 75-100B bank cap).

The current cape of several trillions is good....They might as well just remove currency entirely from the game if they want to cap peoples' banks. W2's local swapper on the SW block, Trades broker, and PvP Events Host

Gatsby#8485

26-Sep-2020 02:26:06

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