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Mortality
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In favor of improved transparency/fixing ge/currency issue

Absolutely do not support any changes that are simply aimed at lowering the price of rares. Let's address the lack of transparency and its roots. Maybe by fixing the manipulation problem rares will lower in price, that's ok.

But to lower prices just for the sake of lowering prices? That may permanently damage the rare market to the point where our niche community could potentially evaporate into nothingness. I've always been fascinated by rares. It's what keeps me playing. It's the reason why I chose to never play OSRS.

We all play for different reasons, I'm sure I'm not alone here.

13-Sep-2020 21:33:41 - Last edited on 13-Sep-2020 21:33:51 by Mortality

200m Defence

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Mr Gatsby said :
ELITE STACK said :
For the forums they can add an ingame play time like 100 hours to prevent now alts from maniping on the forums. This wont completely stop the manip because of older alts but will limit posting on forums.


Yeah, good idea. I'll add it to the list on the first page


100 hours is nothing, people would just have those accounts in the background logged in afking for game time while playing on a actual account. plus there is a total lvl requirement (pretty sure it's 300) already in place (there almost always has been a xp/total lvl requirement).





ELITE STACK said :


100 hours is in game play time meaning they would need to log into the game and not the lobby.


yea it's not hard to stay in-game and not lobby even being on multiple accounts.
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13-Sep-2020 23:18:34 - Last edited on 13-Sep-2020 23:29:58 by 200m Defence

ELITE STACK
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200m Defence said :
Mr Gatsby said :
ELITE STACK said :
For the forums they can add an ingame play time like 100 hours to prevent now alts from maniping on the forums. This wont completely stop the manip because of older alts but will limit posting on forums.


Yeah, good idea. I'll add it to the list on the first page


100 hours is nothing, people would just have those accounts in the background logged in afking for game time while playing on a actual account. plus there is a total lvl requirement (pretty sure it's 300) already in place (there almost always has been a xp/total lvl requirement).



100 hours is in game play time meaning they would need to log into the game and not the lobby.
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13-Sep-2020 23:19:29

Mr Gatsby

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The 100 hours isn't really meant to eliminate the use of alts on forums 100%, just to make it more of a hassle for those who use alts on forums to cause trouble. If someone really wants to, they will spend 1000 hours on an alt just to cause problems but not everyone will.

Need to think about new players too, 100 hours of gameplay could take a while to get for new players who play moderately.
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14-Sep-2020 09:24:47 - Last edited on 14-Sep-2020 09:29:57 by Mr Gatsby

Mr Gatsby

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Mortality said :

Absolutely do not support any changes that are simply aimed at lowering the price of rares.

But to lower prices just for the sake of lowering prices? That may permanently damage the rare market to the point where our niche community could potentially evaporate into nothingness. I've always been fascinated by rares.


Agreed, but now is a good time to make changes that have the potential to crash rares because partyhats are at a point where only few people (in comparison to previous partyhat trade volume) are buying or exchanging partyhats, they are on a downwards trend already but moving slowly. Rares always have the potential to crash with events like dxp or new content anyways. The chromatic partyhat is how it is probably because of the impact they could have had on partyhats and not just the theme of new varrock. So that's why I proposed a rework on that to improve the chromatic partyhat (this is something I've seen posted on forums several times since its release in 2015) without worrying if it will crash partyhats (and other rares) in the short term. That being said I think several options on how it may be updated/or not should be presented to the community in a poll.


Mr Gatsby said :
Chromatic Partyhat Rework cont'd


Possible poll options:

1) Keep the chromatic partyhat unchanged.
2) Make the chromatic partyhat sit slanted on the characters head (similar to the ice cream cone hat)
3) Make the chromatic partyhat upright but float above the characters head
4) A combination of options 2 + 3


Option 5) could be to make it sit like a regular phat but the chromatic partyhat has a twisted form like the first image on the wiki page https://runescape.wiki/w/Chromatic_partyhat.
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14-Sep-2020 19:33:54

Mr Gatsby

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ELITE STACK said :
Another suggestion: Increase number of ge slots to 50. This will allow us to place max offers in ge for items over max to hold cash.


Seems like a poor way to store gp though lol, that being said we probably should get like 12 slots lol. 50 seems excessive.
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17-Sep-2020 04:16:34

ELITE STACK
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Another idea: Add more discontinued items


1. White and black hween mask: Obtained by killing Halloween themed monsters Zombies/edimmus etc same droprate


2. Black partyhat: obtainable from party pete after popping 400 balloons in the party room. can only obtain 1.


3. White santa hat: Obtainable from a short Christmas members only quest. Yea, this one would be fairly common.


Short term this will shift focus toward these items so ppl can either buy one of the following rares or get a classic rare for cheaper.
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19-Sep-2020 04:12:51

Norne
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ELITE STACK said :
Another suggestion: Increase number of ge slots to 50. This will allow us to place max offers in ge for items over max to hold cash.


How does 50 in particular help here? I also imagine people don't store cash this way because its not a very good one given investing in a discontinued for a long time (still is?) a good way to ensure you get more money back. Plus, if you want to store cash, the GE isnt the only solution.
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19-Sep-2020 05:48:06

Mr Gatsby

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Norne said :
ELITE STACK said :
Another suggestion: Increase number of ge slots to 50. This will allow us to place max offers in ge for items over max to hold cash.


How does 50 in particular help here? I also imagine people don't store cash this way because its not a very good one given investing in a discontinued for a long time (still is?) a good way to ensure you get more money back. Plus, if you want to store cash, the GE isnt the only solution.


I think the idea is to have a stable method of storing gp, rather than in items regardless if people could turn profit on them, but it kind of still would be a poor storing method. That's why I suggested the shard pack stuff (please support, qfc link is in my signature).

Not sure if you can comment or not but could you look at the suggestions made pertaining to forums, should find most of it on the first page and the 11th page.
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19-Sep-2020 06:54:36

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