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Zane
Sep Member 2011

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PepeAngilo said :
If anything this update will devalue phats and increase the value of santa hats due to the rarity/scarcity.

Everybody will be able to say they have a phat, but not a santa hat? Let's see


Based on this logic, h'ween masks would rise the most considering that there has never been a re-release of its form (black santa hat/chromatic partyhat/gold partyhat).

But the market is more complicated than that.

13-Nov-2021 12:41:43 - Last edited on 13-Nov-2021 12:42:32 by Zane

MrBalla
Oct Member 2020

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Very similar to how most will judge my opinion based off of my avatar picture, consider reading it twice regardless if you’re “wealthy & powerful” or a “meaningless peasant”

This Gold Partyhat release is GOOD. It will make majority of RuneScape players extremely happy. However, like with many things in RuneScape (and in life) there’s levels to this $h!t. For example, players enjoy their level 99 skillcapes in whatever they earned it in but hate the grind it takes to achieve that almighty 120 skillcape. Once you achieve & put on that 120 skillcape you are instantly on a higher level of respect and sense of accomplishment than those with the same wearing 99 skillcapes.

Everyone will enjoy their level 99 golden party hat. Not everyone will enjoy the level 120 party hats.

At the end of the day, this is simply an online game. Don’t be so hard on yourself :)

13-Nov-2021 13:24:33 - Last edited on 13-Nov-2021 13:44:20 by MrBalla

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Aug Member 2011

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I Just have fun reading all of these party hat avatar head crying and panic posts.

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13-Nov-2021 13:51:36

Mega Duck
Nov Member 2013

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After reading all of the posts, the main issue is that people seem to think it will be too common, comparing to fish masks etc.

I'd just like to point out that Fish masks were available on the Squeal of fortune, they required no effort to obtain and were also available from 6th June all the way to 28th September. (almost 4 months)

Gold Phats will be available for 6 weeks and actually require RNG based activities to obtain one. They will be a lot rarer than fish masks based on these facts.
It's also worth mentioning that many people will probably just be lazy and buy one from the G.E, which will in turn cause less added to the game.

I think it would be a good idea for the fragments to be unobtainable from combat dummies, proteins and anything else involving Treasure hunter.
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13-Nov-2021 15:03:31 - Last edited on 13-Nov-2021 15:12:46 by Mega Duck

The Princess
Sep Member 2009

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Golden Phats probably won't affect the prices of the original Phats, they'll just be added to the hierarchy of Rares, somewhere between a RSH and BSH depending on rarity.

Hell, people thought the BSH would kill Phats. It didn't. It just added an entry level option to the already existing Rares market.

People don't strive for Phats just because they look good. There's a unique history that adds to the prestige of Phats. Hence the reason the Golden one most likely won't crash the market.

Now, if Jagex were to make the Golden Hat extremely good looking and well fitting (even better looking than the originals), and make it rarer than the BSH, then maybe..

13-Nov-2021 15:47:17

emo virgin
Feb Member 2020

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i dont see this affecting price of blue white red purple phats at all.

if anything it will bring more attention to them.

green and to a lesser extent yellow are by far least desired (when looking at rarity vs. price) so adding more partyhat options will probably cause them to lag even further behind others.

13-Nov-2021 15:58:18

4p
Dec Member 2007

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People seem to be throwing speculation around as to how many there will be without having seen the announcement stream or reading anything about it, other than the fact it's going to be released...

If you head over to the RuneScape Twitch channel and watch their latest video, skip to 55:30 and Mod Osborne says something along the following lines, referring to bad luck mitigation and obtaining the shards:
"We have mitigation. There is an upper cap - you will be guaranteed to get [a shard] after a certain period of time. There is certainly strong mitigation in there. You might be lucky enough to get [a shard] within the first hour, but if you move beyond that it is definitely ramping up exponentially so you're more likely to get [a shard]. Please don't think you're going to be hunting around for tens of hours on an individual category - that won't be happening."


The shards are going to be available for 42 days. There is a limit after training a certain skill etc that you will 100% get a shard.

3 shards are eseentially given away for free or naturally (getting to Yak Track level 15 means training skills, which means a chance at the shard) whilst attempting to get the other shards:
- Talk to the Wise Old Man who is waiting for you outside the Grand Exchange in Varrock.
- At Level 15 of the free track in the Christmas Yak Track event.
- One shard can be purchased with 30 million in-game gold.


I'll be unlocking the hat on my main and alt account. My friend said he's getting it on all 6 of his accounts. Everyone I know is going to be unlocking the hat.

This will be the most available discontinued item we've ever seen.


Edit: there doesn't seem to be any kind of bot mitigation either, a brand new level 3 account can get it within 42 days using the current options, so...

13-Nov-2021 16:10:53 - Last edited on 13-Nov-2021 16:35:48 by 4p

Eng1neerd
Feb Member 2014

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MrBalla said :
Very similar to how most will judge my opinion based off of my avatar picture, consider reading it twice regardless if you’re “wealthy & powerful” or a “meaningless peasant”

This Gold Partyhat release is GOOD. It will make majority of RuneScape players extremely happy. However, like with many things in RuneScape (and in life) there’s levels to this $h!t. For example, players enjoy their level 99 skillcapes in whatever they earned it in but hate the grind it takes to achieve that almighty 120 skillcape. Once you achieve & put on that 120 skillcape you are instantly on a higher level of respect and sense of accomplishment than those with the same wearing 99 skillcapes.

Everyone will enjoy their level 99 golden party hat. Not everyone will enjoy the level 120 party hats.

At the end of the day, this is simply an online game. Don’t be so hard on yourself :)


Hmm not to throw rocks but not sure if I agree with this logic though. The gold phat imo is the best looking phat just like how black santa is better looking than red santa due to it looking like a black beanie, the gold phat is an actual crown almost. It would certainly devalue phats. I mean it is a real discontinued phat, just a better looking color! Gold is the ultimate color in every video game for weapons, cosmetics, etc.

Personally I have 0 motivation to go for other colored phats now. I would rather prioritize other things like trimmed comp cape to match my Gphat and dyes to complete fashionscape. I think it will likely increase the prices of dyes as people will prioritize it more than hats.

In regards to the rarity argument some people say the number of rares impact the prices - I don't think this is true. Aesthetics has a factor too and ultimately drive the price. If there was only 10 fish masks in the game I don't see how that's even a flex when it's so ugly. I wouldn't even want it for 1 gp haha - hey but to each their own right?

13-Nov-2021 21:36:22 - Last edited on 13-Nov-2021 21:46:40 by Eng1neerd

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