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Scouse
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Yo Blue said :
Scouse said :
Yo Blue said :
Dude said its not going to happen like it isn't literality on the main page.


Do the patrons of the rare market really believe that Jagex are just gonna throw you a new toy to claim as your own and remove away from any other paying customer who does not have more money than the royal mint can make in a year?

To actually do this it has to be made accessible to a wider community and not just the rich people of the game.

I was once just like you and believed phats and other rares belonged to to just us but unless Jagex are happy to look like they cba with anyone who is not involved in the rare market, they have to do this differently somehow.

I know ways they can do this but time will tell..

That is what i mean when i say "Not gonna happen"

As soon as it is mentioned you guys jump all over it trying to predict prices lol

Much love

Scouse - All that glitters is not gold!


What are u even saying lol? Does this ramble make sense to you in your head?


It is quite obvious bro
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12-Nov-2021 22:40:03

PepeAngilo

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Sea King said :
I don't know why so much excitement...there's going to be hundreds of thousands or probably millions of them given that it's one per account.

It's gold-looking alright. Just like BRASS.

Call it BRASS Partyhat.


Brass phat but still a phat. The fact that now we have an actual item that has the same shape of a phat, will devalue current phats. You might say "everybody is going to have one, it is common" and yes, that is the point.

Other rares or even dyes will go up in price as people want to have things that are less common. And if majority of people who wanted a phat now have a much cheaper option, why would they spend their bank on a paper hat that is not unique in shape anymore and has zero stats when they can buy weapons and play the game?

Lower rares and Black Santa Hat to the moon! (and pvm weapons/armour :) )

12-Nov-2021 22:42:07

RSGOTMEFATT

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PepeAngilo said :
Sea King said :
I don't know why so much excitement...there's going to be hundreds of thousands or probably millions of them given that it's one per account.

It's gold-looking alright. Just like BRASS.

Call it BRASS Partyhat.


Brass phat but still a phat. The fact that now we have an actual item that has the same shape of a phat, will devalue current phats. You might say "everybody is going to have one, it is common" and yes, that is the point.

Other rares or even dyes will go up in price as people want to have things that are less common. And if majority of people who wanted a phat now have a much cheaper option, why would they spend their bank on a paper hat that is not unique in shape anymore and has zero stats when they can buy weapons and play the game?

Lower rares and Black Santa Hat to the moon! (and pvm weapons/armour :) )



If it looks exactly like a partyhat, it's definitely going to affect demand for older hats, many will have fulfilled their goal of obtaining a partyhat, and will move on to something else. But i am not too sure about lower rares going to the moon. "if jagex can release a party hat why not a white santa or a black h'ween."
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12-Nov-2021 22:44:29

PepeAngilo

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Scouse said :
Yo Blue said :
Dude said its not going to happen like it isn't literality on the main page.


Do the patrons of the rare market really believe that Jagex are just gonna throw you a new toy to claim as your own and remove away from any other paying customer who does not have more money than the royal mint can make in a year?

To actually do this it has to be made accessible to a wider community and not just the rich people of the game.

I was once just like you and believed phats and other rares belonged to to just us but unless Jagex are happy to look like they cba with anyone who is not involved in the rare market, they have to do this differently somehow.

I know ways they can do this but time will tell..

That is what i mean when i say "Not gonna happen"

As soon as it is mentioned you guys jump all over it trying to predict prices lol

Much love

Scouse - All that glitters is not gold!


If you think for a second that Jagex won't be willing to release or rerelease an item so long as they make tons of money from it you are sadly mistaken.

If they see a potential to make money out of the rerelease of phats as MTX, they will. That's why people hoarding these items should be mindful that the price they pay to be called "Runescape Richest" is high as they are secluding themself from the population. Jagex would not care to alienate the 20-30 big merchers hoarding these items (as they did with zombie walk) if they will make the rest of the RS population happy while making money. So rereleasing to make tons of profit with the downside of losing 20-30 phat hoarders? That is a non brainer

12-Nov-2021 22:48:18

PepeAngilo

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RSGOTMEFATT said :
PepeAngilo said :
Sea King said :
I don't know why so much excitement...there's going to be hundreds of thousands or probably millions of them given that it's one per account.

It's gold-looking alright. Just like BRASS.

Call it BRASS Partyhat.


Brass phat but still a phat. The fact that now we have an actual item that has the same shape of a phat, will devalue current phats. You might say "everybody is going to have one, it is common" and yes, that is the point.

Other rares or even dyes will go up in price as people want to have things that are less common. And if majority of people who wanted a phat now have a much cheaper option, why would they spend their bank on a paper hat that is not unique in shape anymore and has zero stats when they can buy weapons and play the game?

Lower rares and Black Santa Hat to the moon! (and pvm weapons/armour :) )



If it looks exactly like a partyhat, it's definitely going to affect demand for older hats, many will have fulfilled their goal of obtaining a partyhat, and will move on to something else. But i am not too sure about lower rares going to the moon. "if jagex can release a party hat why not a white santa or a black h'ween."


As someone that owns rares, I say... why not? Rerelease everything. That way people focus on playing the game and the activities this game has to offer. Maybe Jagex can focus next on revamping castle wars and soul wars.... more content for group activities... These topics only break us apart as a community. The elite vs the middle class lol

I am only saying for now that's the impact I believe it will have on other rares. Jagex has not mentioned anything about other rares (but hopefully they do).

12-Nov-2021 22:52:48

Scouse
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Has nobody thought about the repercussions a new colour phat could have on the other colours?

Something will have to give way and when a certain colour gives way will it cause a panic never seen in game because the market has never had something of this nature affecting it, i know there has been black santas and shit like that but that was never a rival of any phat, now phats might actually have a rival and not one of you can know exactly how this could affect things.

Jagex as a company might be slightly more hopeful than you think.
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12-Nov-2021 22:52:51

Scouse
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PepeAngilo said :
Scouse said :
Yo Blue said :
Dude said its not going to happen like it isn't literality on the main page.


Do the patrons of the rare market really believe that Jagex are just gonna throw you a new toy to claim as your own and remove away from any other paying customer who does not have more money than the royal mint can make in a year?

To actually do this it has to be made accessible to a wider community and not just the rich people of the game.

I was once just like you and believed phats and other rares belonged to to just us but unless Jagex are happy to look like they cba with anyone who is not involved in the rare market, they have to do this differently somehow.

I know ways they can do this but time will tell..

That is what i mean when i say "Not gonna happen"

As soon as it is mentioned you guys jump all over it trying to predict prices lol

Much love

Scouse - All that glitters is not gold!


If you think for a second that Jagex won't be willing to release or rerelease an item so long as they make tons of money from it you are sadly mistaken.

If they see a potential to make money out of the rerelease of phats as MTX, they will. That's why people hoarding these items should be mindful that the price they pay to be called "Runescape Richest" is high as they are secluding themself from the population. Jagex would not care to alienate the 20-30 big merchers hoarding these items (as they did with zombie walk) if they will make the rest of the RS population happy while making money. So rereleasing to make tons of profit with the downside of losing 20-30 phat hoarders? That is a non brainer


100% i agree with you but what is the harm in me having my own opinion on this lol.
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12-Nov-2021 22:55:01

PepeAngilo

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Scouse said :
Has nobody thought about the repercussions a new colour phat could have on the other colours?

Something will have to give way and when a certain colour gives way will it cause a panic never seen in game because the market has never had something of this nature affecting it, i know there has been black santas and shit like that but that was never a rival of any phat, now phats might actually have a rival and not one of you can know exactly how this could affect things.

Jagex as a company might be slightly more hopeful than you think.


The difference is that black santa hat was rarer. It seems from the looks of things that this phat will be quite easy to get if you can buy the membership. Jagex is aiming to please the majority of players complaining about the rare market being disproportionately high (merchers and hoarders to blame). So there you go. A slap in the face for hoarding for the second consecutive month (first zombie walk, now this).

Happy hoarding.

12-Nov-2021 22:58:18

PepeAngilo

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Scouse, apologies if my message gave that impression but I respect your opinion. I am just stating a truth most players have forgotten. Jagex is a for profit company. They will do whatever they need to do to make money.

12-Nov-2021 23:00:19 - Last edited on 12-Nov-2021 23:00:45 by PepeAngilo

Sea King
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PepeAngilo said :
Sea King said :
I don't know why so much excitement...there's going to be hundreds of thousands or probably millions of them given that it's one per account.

It's gold-looking alright. Just like BRASS.

Call it BRASS Partyhat.


Brass phat but still a phat. The fact that now we have an actual item that has the same shape of a phat, will devalue current phats. You might say "everybody is going to have one, it is common" and yes, that is the point.

Other rares or even dyes will go up in price as people want to have things that are less common. And if majority of people who wanted a phat now have a much cheaper option, why would they spend their bank on a paper hat that is not unique in shape anymore and has zero stats when they can buy weapons and play the game?

Lower rares and Black Santa Hat to the moon! (and pvm weapons/armour :) )


No one is going to give a player mad respect for wearing a common hat with millions of them in-game no matter the similarity. It'll be obvious who is wearing the expensive partyhat and which one is wearing the BRASS one. We already had this discussion when rainbow partyhat came out. Tons of people ranted about how a rainbow partyhat would spell doom for the classic partyhats by creating an alternative (free and untradable) partyhat for people to wear.

People who wear 30m hats or 100m hats (if it gets to that price) aren't in the same market as the ones who wear 50b or 100b hats. Luxury goods and inferior goods are not in the same market.

Look at partyhat lending. If a person can pay a few mill to wear a 'real' partyhat for an extended period of time, shouldn't that kill demand to own a 'real' partyhat? If phat lending didn't crash partyhats, then a BRASS phat sure as hell won't.
If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

13-Nov-2021 00:19:16

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