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Dilbert2001
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"Apparently as a Skiller I'm not allowed to have an opinion on new content that could have had a skilling element."


I don't know who said that. Definitely not me, if this comment is for me.

H I L D A said I couldn't determine what you said as a player who hasn't leveled and did want to level combat for over a decade. I just told them I didn't determine that because A Cole explicitly told us so.

Again, as another user commented on the game is not created for just a couple of "pures" and even such "pures" he knows of get bored of being "pures", we are just pointing out Necromancy is not designed for just a couple of players who don't want to level combat.

08-Jun-2023 23:25:27

H 1 L D A
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> vehemently agrees with another poster who claims skiller pures are ruining the game and have no right to make suggestions for content.

> tries to gaslight yet another poster, a skiller pure, that he even said such things.

;)
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Dilbert2001
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H 1 L D A said :
> vehemently agrees with another poster who claims skiller pures are ruining the game and have no right to make suggestions for content.

> tries to gaslight yet another poster, a skiller pure, that he even said such things.

;)

I am curious who said that and who gaslighted who too. Please show the source.

09-Jun-2023 01:52:54

H 1 L D A
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"No, it sounds awful. They will constantly complain about things they can't do, because of the limits they have put onto themselves, and they will do whatever they can to have the game nerfed to fit their needs. Just wait till some necromacer thing requires level 5 in defense, and you will never hear the end of it.

Pures should have no say in how the game is developed. They are ruining the game."


- Bertel62, Page 1.

"TYVM. That's my point, especially my point to a very small number of players who aren't interested in leveling combat since 15 years ago."


- Dilbert2001, in reply to Bertel62, after highlighting the sentence "Pures should have no say in how the game is developed.", Page 1.

This you?
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09-Jun-2023 03:49:11

Dilbert2001
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H 1 L D A said :
"No, it sounds awful. They will constantly complain about things they can't do, because of the limits they have put onto themselves, and they will do whatever they can to have the game nerfed to fit their needs. Just wait till some necromacer thing requires level 5 in defense, and you will never hear the end of it.

Pures should have no say in how the game is developed. They are ruining the game."


- Bertel62, Page 1.

"TYVM. That's my point, especially my point to a very small number of players who aren't interested in leveling combat since 15 years ago."


- Dilbert2001, in reply to Bertel62, after highlighting the sentence "Pures should have no say in how the game is developed.", Page 1.

This you?

I just agreed to somebody who doesn't think pures should have a say on how the game is developed. There is no gaslighting at all. It is purely that person's opinion he is entitled to make. Besides, it is actually not only his opinion, RS3 Jmods also said in the livestream they don't develop Necromancy specifically for (skill) pures. What's the problem? It is Jmods' opinions too. They aren't "gaslighting" anybody.

09-Jun-2023 03:58:21

H 1 L D A
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This is also you.

"I don't know who said that. Definitely not me, if this comment is for me."


- Dilbert2001, Page 4, replying to A Cole, after highlighting the sentence "Apparently as a Skiller I'm not allowed to have an opinion on new content that could have had a skilling element."

You can't simultaneously slap Bertel's back for telling skillers to take a hike, and then tell A Cole that you aren't like Bertel. You gave a verbal agreement to the comment A Cole mentioned in his quote.

The moderators were only talking about Necromancy specifically, not literally any piece of content ever that may have skilling elements included. A Cole has already made his peace with Necromancy. He doesn't need to be dragged around for playing the game the way he wants to and treated like a second rate member of our community for doing so.
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09-Jun-2023 04:27:50 - Last edited on 09-Jun-2023 04:28:23 by H 1 L D A

Dilbert2001
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H 1 L D A said :
This is also you.

"I don't know who said that. Definitely not me, if this comment is for me."


- Dilbert2001, Page 4, replying to A Cole, after highlighting the sentence "Apparently as a Skiller I'm not allowed to have an opinion on new content that could have had a skilling element."

You can't simultaneously slap Bertel's back for telling skillers to take a hike, and then tell A Cole that you aren't like Bertel. You gave a verbal agreement to the comment A Cole mentioned in his quote.

The moderators were only talking about Necromancy specifically, not literally any piece of content ever that may have skilling elements included. A Cole has already made his peace with Necromancy. He doesn't need to be dragged around for playing the game the way he wants to and treated like a second rate member of our community for doing so.

I meant I wasn't gaslighting you, not that I don't agree with the person who agreed with the Jmods that development of game content like Necromancy should not be affected by a tiny number of "pures".

09-Jun-2023 04:30:02

H 1 L D A
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Thank you for admitting you -were- being dishonest to A Cole then. Even if he has no combat stats, the guy doesn't need you, or Bertel, to treat him like you did.

Guy sticks around and pays membership for as long as he does and he has a couple of clowns trying to tell him that because he has self-imposed restrictions his opinion on the game is void. Ridiculous, and frankly, insulting.
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09-Jun-2023 04:53:28

Dilbert2001
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Please don't put words in our mouths. We, meaning me, the person I replied to and the RS3 Jmods all agreed that we don't want to spend time to cater to "pures". It doesn't matter he pays membership. We paid membership too. I paid membership since its existence, but it means zip.

09-Jun-2023 05:10:08

H 1 L D A
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I don't have to, I've already quoted the words your mouth was full of.

A Cole never asked to be catered to once. He was capable of pointing out in his own thread that skilling was merely an aspect of Necromancy, a combat skill, but was confused by poor communication on Jagex' end that made it unclear whether or not the skill was something Skillers (the players who don't train combat) should consider engaging with it or not.

You two went about in a public forum essentially saying that all Skillers shouldn't have a voice on....like a majority of the game. Then you tried to claim you never said that at all about people like A Cole.

If you're going to be the the type of toxic player that that does stuff like that, at least own it. There are lots of players that believe pures and ironmen and whoever believe that their self-imposed restrictions are personal choices that for some reason should supersede the ability to offer opinions or feedback on content. I don't know why you would want to associate with some of the worst parts fo this community, but you wouldn't be alone.
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