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Dilbert2001
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Bertel62 said :
Roddy Piper said :
What is the gameplay value of gathering historical facts from ghosts?


About the same as burning logs or restoring archeological artifacts.

This game is full of nonsense skills, so why not another one?


18% growth in RS3 revenue in 2019 tells us the gameplay value of restoring archaeological artifacts. The players has spoken with their wallet.

If "gathering historical facts from ghosts" can achieve the same purpose as "resotring archaeological artifacts", or even exceeds it, it will be of great gameplay values to the consumers, especially when Archaeology is a non-grindy skill that we can level up with doing numerous things with other skills, minigames and newly added content like Research and Myseteries.

Archaoelogy is far more than just a skill. It is a bona fide MMORPG expansion. I hope Necromancy is something similar.

03-Feb-2023 18:02:12 - Last edited on 03-Feb-2023 18:57:03 by Dilbert2001

Qwis7
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Dilbert:
Tumeken is never claimed to be death.
He appears to be detonating himself" it is never claimed he just suicided himself to death it also could just de a huge sunbeam spell like thing that blinded a lot people and just vanished something like zaros did basically.

Zaros also never officialy died not in the past and still not after the monolith event.
Rember we entered Erebus, but never died.
We do not know if Zaros got some kind of power that protect him in Erebus, or did he died after all?

Still no god ever returned form death in the past.
I also highly doubt Necromancy will change this.
Who knows maybe necromancy or future lore will change this.

06-Feb-2023 13:25:27

Dilbert2001
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Qwis7 said :
Dilbert:
Tumeken is never claimed to be death.
He appears to be detonating himself" it is never claimed he just suicided himself to death it also could just de a huge sunbeam spell like thing that blinded a lot people and just vanished something like zaros did basically.

Zaros also never officialy died not in the past and still not after the monolith event.
Rember we entered Erebus, but never died.
We do not know if Zaros got some kind of power that protect him in Erebus, or did he died after all?

Still no god ever returned form death in the past.
I also highly doubt Necromancy will change this.
Who knows maybe necromancy or future lore will change this.


The desert people think Tumeken is dead. The Elves thought Seren was dead before we met the Dark Lord.

What do you mean by "officially dead"? This game is a FICTION, there is nothing "officially" dead in a FICTION.

Again x 9000, we can TIME TRAVEL, even "officially dead" NPCs can come back to life without a doubt. We, the Time Guardian, have changed histories and bought many dead NPCs back to life in different occasions already.

06-Feb-2023 15:40:46

Qwis7
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Things like wiki, Jagex announcements and in game proof.

All the god that died so far turned into stone.
Wiki also let shows you when they are death or just missing/ unknown location.
Jagex also did say some status of gods in the past.
Jagex also did say plenty times what happens to gods when they died and that it is just impossible to bring them back in anyway.

Time travel is possible but still they wont continue in the future idk how, but its sometimes Jagex did say in time when a lot of people wanted Guthix back.

It may breaks a lot of hope sry for that, but its better to life with facts instead of false hopes and lies in my opinion.

Not all lore is pictured n game already and plenty things only exist in text.
Maybe they will revamp those things, but I highly doubt it.

07-Feb-2023 10:18:28

Dilbert2001
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Qwis7 said :


Time travel is possible but still they wont continue in the future idk how, but its sometimes Jagex did say in time when a lot of people wanted Guthix back.



I already know time travel is definitely not just possible, but a reality. Perhaps you don't know how but all those of us who aren't disinterested or stopped playing RS3 know and have experienced it through recent quests like EGW: Extinction and Once Upon A Time in Gielinor.

We, the Time Guardian, can travel in time in both forward and backward and alter events, hence bringing dead NPCs back to life.

We also have The Needle. Perhaps you don't know how, but we have seen HOW it works. Kerapac used The Needle to buy us time and stopped Jas from destroying us repeatedly until Seren finally teleported the Elder Eggs to Iaia. Yes, not only do we know how Time Travel works in Gielinor, we also know it works even on not just gods, but also Elder Gods too.

And don't even get me into the even more extremely obvious. Guthix is still alive in New Varrock, when we step into Dimension of Disaster.

So the Time Guardian going back to the past to alter events after using our new Necromancy skill to commute with the dead people and obtain the crucial info is eminently logical in RS3.

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08-Feb-2023 01:20:34

Qwis7
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I do know about the needle, but still it remains the gods cannot be brought back to life.
The needle also did not fully work on Jas with the help of the second elder artifact staff of Armadyl Kerapac was able to hold Jas just long enough during the quest that's why we needed to hurry.

Also the Needle is shattered now after those events.

So far we are not time guardians and we lost our world guardian powers after resent events to ban the gods once again form Geilinor.
In other world we are once again the just well trained adventures form before world wakes.


Dimension of Disaster is a total different thing indeed, but like you say it is a different dimension not time travel.
We also do not know what gods still remain in that dimension, maybe Guthix is death maybe still asleep we just do not know.
We also do not exist in that dimension, but it is not really cannon lore just a reflection of what we did for Geilinor so far.

So far when gods died there bodies turn into stone and there minds just vanish they do not have souls like Jagex did say in the past.
We can find the death gods so far in: varrock museum and infernal source, guthix resting place, V on the island of stone, Bandos near Burtops, Tuska in the desert Skargaroth on Naragun plane and Mah on Freneskae.

We believe Jas died, but it is unknown if Jas really died!

08-Feb-2023 14:05:22

Dilbert2001
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^^
We don't even need The Needle to still have Guthix living in New Varrock. This is an undeniable fact, and can easily be proven with the very own eyes of anybody who hasn't quit RS3 for years, or not disinterested with it, since the release of Dimension of Disaster.

08-Feb-2023 18:55:10

Dilbert2001
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Qwis7 said :
I agree with you about Dimension of disaster Dilbert! :D


Good that you agree with me, and I don't see a reason why anybody doesn't.

We know about the Time Guardian thing all along. We know we can alter time, bring back dead NPC (gods and elder gods included), and continue our journey from that dimension.

We have all kinds of time portals, some found and some haven't, and The Needle is just one such PORTABLE portals.

09-Feb-2023 17:35:05

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