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Mega Duck
Nov Member 2013

Mega Duck

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Problem 1

"The first problem is the enormous utility and stat benefits the completionist capes provide. This causes two major issues: firstly, the players who most benefit from the stats and utilities on comp aren’t always the same players who enjoy the challenge of completing comp cape requirements. Secondly, the Comp cape is the only cape worth wearing, which means there is no strategy to the slot and no reason to be excited if we release new capes."


Solution:
Instead of doing all of this and possibly causing a load of players to quit, why not just buff the max cape stats to match comp and add the utilities of comp to the player as said in the doc. This solves problems 1 & 2.

Problem 3

"The third big problem is specific problematic requirements - mainly Reaper and Castle Wars. Reaper has two closely related issues - it adds both hard PVM content and forced group content as requirements, which locks players who can’t or won’t do either of those things."


Imo, Reaper should be a requirement, since it makes sense, but if people are so upset by this:

Solution 1:
Remove group PVM from comp and add to the Trim requirements.
Or..
Solution 2:
Remove reaper from comp and add it to Trim.

Castle Wars


Solution:
Stop wasting resources on this comp rework and update existing content such as this and make people actually want to play it...

Problem 4

"The fourth problem is the lack of objectives to aim for. Once you’re maxed and you’ve completed all quests, the next thing to aim for is Comp Cape, which is quite a lofty achievement. If you’re not going to comp you don’t really have much else to aim for."


Solution:
Again, instead of wasting resources with this rework, make more objectives to aim for?
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13-Mar-2019 22:55:17 - Last edited on 13-Mar-2019 23:00:04 by Mega Duck

Snidey
Oct Member 2018

Snidey

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Re-posting from the other thread regarding comp cape rework
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"Freezing Existing Comp & Trimmed Comp capes
We’ve spoken about all the improvements we’re making, but what about the existing Completionist and Trimmed Completionist Capes?
We don’t want to abandon them, or devalue the accomplishments of the players who have them.



So, our current pitch for the existing Comp and Trimmed Comp would be to effectively ‘freeze’ them. The current Comp Cape and Trimmed Comp Cape would become ‘Legacy’ versions of themselves and be renamed appropriately. These Legacy versions would:
Keep all their existing requirements
Would still be obtainable and could still be worn post-rework.
Would never have any of their requirements added to, changed, or removed.
Wouldn’t have stats or non-stat benefits, but you’d still have access to them thanks to the changes proposed earlier in this document.



This means that, if you already have a Comp or Trimmed Comp Cape, you get to keep it and, if you’re close to getting one, you can keep working towards it."

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I have highlighted my issue with the proposal, this is a direct contradiction and is pathetic. If you remove the stats and non-stat benefits of the cape, you are completely de-valuing it. You would be better off leaving the comp capes as they are now.

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I also agree with the majority of Mega Duck's post above suggesting better solutions than the ones currently proposed. I do think there still should be a benefit / motivating factor of going from max cape to comp cape.
Snidey

13-Mar-2019 23:54:29 - Last edited on 13-Mar-2019 23:57:27 by Snidey

MvP 187

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-The Quest Cape, Master Quest Cape and Max Cape (and their old appearances) will no longer exist in game. They’re effectively being replaced by the Lore-1, Lore-2 and Skills-1 capes. If you’ve keepsaked these capes, we’ll refund you. The old Comp and Trim capes will remain in game as legacy versions.


There's no way you guys are serious about removing the max cape, because if you are, i'm telling you right now that myself and all of my friends are going to quit the game if this is the case. We've worked so hard to achieve the max cape and for it to be replaced by the lame sounding "skills-1 cape" is just retarded. "Hey guys look at me and my cool skills-1 cape" will be said by no one ever. It's the max cape and always has been the max cape. Go ahead and continue with this update if you want to lose what few player base you guys have left.

You as a company need to start listening to the community who actually pays to play this game. And who is even asking for this rework anyways?? You guys wanna rework the comp cape then thats fine. But theres no reason you should touch the quest capes and max cape.

Tread carefully jagex, you remove the quest cape and max cape and it will be a decision you will deeply regret with a vast amount of players ready to quit.

14-Mar-2019 00:03:56

Stevhen

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Hello,

While I don't mind the idea of tiered Comp Capes.. like having smaller steps leading up to the comp cape so that more people will be willing to seek it.. I do not think anyone should be messing with the existing quest cape or the max cape...

Even though I hate questing dearly, If the Comp Capes existing requirements were split into Tiers, I might start working towards the Tier1 Comp.

Max Cape / Max Guild on the other hand, for people like myself is what has kept me playing. Just seeing Max running around Varrock skilling with that cape gives a player motivation to keep going. Don't take away the max cape. I own a max cape, and if that cape is removed from the game or demeaned in any way, I will be done with Runescape and move onto other games.

14-Mar-2019 01:04:41

M O R G U E

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I've spent the better part of 2 years grinding in and out, whether its fun content or agonizing content, so that I could obtain and equip the max cape.. It's an iconic item and there's nothing over powered or out dated about it. It's perfectly fine as it has been for years.....
I (and the majority of my friends that I talk to daily on rs) will definitely quit the game completely if the max cape doesnt look and function exactly the same
after the proposed "cape rework" :(

I'm all for the comp capes being reworked; they actually should be tiered for people who don't want to tackle the deathly grindy/boring content like castle wars etc.. but
why was the max cape and quest cape dragged into the comp cape rework
?

14-Mar-2019 01:37:16 - Last edited on 14-Mar-2019 01:38:55 by M O R G U E

Of War I
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Of War I

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my idea is three layers of perfection, dividing all requirements between dual layers and third layer (t) the requirement would be a new mission to have maximum cover and 2 layers of perfection

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/524897288129216530/555425413459869696/novas_perf_ingles.png

14-Mar-2019 02:10:03

KseeBrinegar

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I am so close to the Max Cape I can taste it. 150 ish 24 hour days of my adult life so far put into this one achievement. Runescape is really the only thing I have going on anymore. My girlfriend left me, I lost my job, If that cape gets removed from the game before I even get it I will be contemplating suicide.

14-Mar-2019 02:12:49

Deborah
Mar Member 2006

Deborah

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Jagex, You ruined smithing, you are about to ruin firemaking and now you wanna take my capes away and replace them with some stupid lore cape. Come on seriously i'm unsure what ur thinking but refunding me a keep sake key aint gonna repay all the work i have put into these capes just leave them alone. You made a mistake removing the wildy back in the day don't make the same type of mistake again by removing hard earned capes. Marriage should be between a
Man
and a
Woman

14-Mar-2019 03:11:41

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