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Dulcis Nex
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Dilbert2001 said :
Although not exactly quests, the story mode and lore dropped from the elite dungeons, especially the Drogankin research notes are highly interesting. I see the kind of quality that Jmod Osborne said on the reduction of quests in favor of better quality ones, supplemented by lore from other in game sources.

What I think that helps to further improve the RPG feel of this game is more interactive NPCs. NPCs are also good sources of lore in place of quests.
I agree about having more interactive NPCs.

Lorebooks are nice too, but to suggest they are a substitute for quests is really, really lazy of Jagex. Sorry but if I only wanted lore and no gameplay I would read a book irl, not play a game.
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17-Sep-2018 23:25:13

Dilbert2001
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Dulcis Nex said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Although not exactly quests, the story mode and lore dropped from the elite dungeons, especially the Drogankin research notes are highly interesting. I see the kind of quality that Jmod Osborne said on the reduction of quests in favor of better quality ones,
supplemented by lore
from other in game sources.

What I think that helps to further improve the RPG feel of this game is more interactive NPCs. NPCs are also good sources of lore in place of quests.
I agree about having more interactive NPCs.

Lorebooks are nice too, but to suggest they are a substitute for quests is really, really lazy of Jagex. Sorry but if I only wanted lore and no gameplay I would read a book irl, not play a game.


What? Can't you tell the difference between supplement and substitute? :D

17-Sep-2018 23:32:18

Hunteresque
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Dilbert2001 said :
Dulcis Nex said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Although not exactly quests, the story mode and lore dropped from the elite dungeons, especially the Drogankin research notes are highly interesting. I see the kind of quality that Jmod Osborne said on the reduction of quests in favor of better quality ones,
supplemented by lore
from other in game sources.

What I think that helps to further improve the RPG feel of this game is more interactive NPCs. NPCs are also good sources of lore in place of quests.
I agree about having more interactive NPCs.

Lorebooks are nice too, but to suggest they are a substitute for quests is really, really lazy of Jagex. Sorry but if I only wanted lore and no gameplay I would read a book irl, not play a game.


What? Can't you tell the difference between supplement and substitute? :D


There's the classic defending Jagex again. Your endless dedication to defending them honestly shocks me.
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18-Sep-2018 00:50:27

Dilbert2001
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Hunteresque said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Dulcis Nex said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Although not exactly quests, the story mode and lore dropped from the elite dungeons, especially the Drogankin research notes are highly interesting. I see the kind of quality that Jmod Osborne said on the reduction of quests in favor of better quality ones,
supplemented by lore
from other in game sources.

What I think that helps to further improve the RPG feel of this game is more interactive NPCs. NPCs are also good sources of lore in place of quests.
I agree about having more interactive NPCs.

Lorebooks are nice too, but to suggest they are a substitute for quests is really, really lazy of Jagex. Sorry but if I only wanted lore and no gameplay I would read a book irl, not play a game.


What? Can't you tell the difference between supplement and substitute? :D


There's the classic defending Jagex again. Your endless dedication to defending them honestly shocks me.


It is extremely clear lore supplements quest, not substitute it. I don't think I can make it any clearer with even simpler English than that.

18-Sep-2018 01:08:07

Dilbert2001
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Everybody who is really interesting in "The Big RuneScape Survey 2018" can take a look at the quests that Jagex explicitly put under the Unfinished Business polls:

https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/NN9R3CV

Please pay attention to:

9. Unfinished Business! How important is it that we release the following large-sized updates?


The only 2 quests under the large-size updates category are Elder God Quest and Rite of Passage Quest.

20. Unfinished Business! How important is it that we release the following medium-sized updates?


The only quest under this category is Evil Dave quest.

There were no quests under the small-size updates Unfinished Business category.

Evil Date quest has been released, so the only real Unfinished Business quests under The Big Runesape 2018 survey remain unfinished are Elder God and Rite of Passage quests.

Since the Unfinished Business Polls 9, 20, and 28 were mandated polls, they seemed to be more important to Jagex than other things including the optional polls. Perhaps we will see them next, and hopefully we don't need to wait too long. Just be patient. :)

18-Sep-2018 01:27:27

Dulcis Nex
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Dilbert2001 said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Although not exactly quests, the story mode and lore dropped from the elite dungeons, especially the Drogankin research notes are highly interesting. I see the kind of quality that Jmod Osborne said on the reduction of quests
in favor of
better quality ones, supplemented by lore from other in game sources.


What? Can't you tell the difference between supplement and substitute?
I certainly can, but I think it is you who needs to practice their reading comprehension.

What you said state that a higher number of quests is being exchanged ( substituted ) for fewer quests with additional lore. The "lore from other in game sources" is indeed part of this exchange, you cannot interpret the sentence any other way.

Not the only part, as this exchange also suggests a higher quality of quests. But that is non-existant :D
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18-Sep-2018 01:49:52

Dulcis Nex
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Dilbert2001 said :
Since the Unfinished Business Polls 9, 20, and 28 were mandated polls, they seemed to be more important to Jagex than other things including the optional polls. Perhaps we will see them next, and hopefully we don't need to wait too long. Just be patient.
How about I'll be patient when Jagex stop charging money? They are being paid to release content, 2 quests in 9 months is terrible especially when Jagex have never in 17 years released this few, not even in the last couple of years since they announced their "quality over quantity" policy as an excuse for making less content.
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18-Sep-2018 01:54:56

Dilbert2001
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Ignoring all the posts not remotely connected Jagex's announced updates in the future where this
FUTURE GAME UPDATE FORUM
should be used to discuss, let's look at some known Jagex reveals like the Elder God quest line that Jagex mentioned in several occasions.

I have already shown Elder God is classified as a large-size "unfinished business" in their Big 2018 Runescape Survey. Now, let's look at their actual description from Runefest 2017 Reveals:

http://services.runescape.com/m=news/runescape-2017-reveals

"Elder Gods
Talking of godlike powers, let's talk about the Elder Gods. They're beginning to stir, and when they wake up, they won't be happy. We've learned over the past few years that these guys have been sleeping under our noses, in the perfect world they created. We - the current inhabitants - are just noisy, dirty tenants. They want us gone.

Imagine what would happen if Bik - the elder god sleeping under Entrana - got up.

There's no battling this, no clever way of getting Vorago to stab it in the face, no weapon to make it turn and run. Can we reason with them? Can we revert the damage we have done, perhaps, or even find them a new home?

If their destiny works out, they are here to consume all living things, feed from the anima and make a new world more glorious than the last. Zaros is the key - the man with a plan - but will he survive the troubles posed by Sliske's Endgame? That is truly up to you."


Rest assured, Jagex are late with the Elder God quest line, but unlike other quests they also put in their surveys, they actually have a plot and description of this quest they are trying to produce. This one doesn't seem to be just all talk but no action.

The World Wakes certainly reshaped Gielinor... what about When Bik Wakes? Sound interesting and very promising. If this quest comes within the next 12 month, it alone will be better than all the quests we had the last year already.

18-Sep-2018 03:16:28

Dilbert2001
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Jagex also has some leaked video footage on what appears to be an adventurer retrieving a purple artifact from the Dragonkin castle in Daemonheim. Although not officially released, a Jmod confirmed via Reddit it is a Jagex asset. So, this is another promising sign new interesting quest involving the Dragonkins and maybe a new artifact is in the making for the future.

On the not-quite-quests but quest related content front, we are also going to get a Quest Point Shop. This is another good idea to value added feature to questers too.

18-Sep-2018 03:24:45

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Hunteresque said :
Dulcis Nex said :
The one quest per two months plan they had a couple of years is starting to seem juicy. Beats a quest every 5 months. Knowing a new quest is coming out retains my engagement and anticipation. Awhile back, when I didn't have much time on my hands I recall logging in just once every few weeks to do new quests.
Now it feels like to game is in a rut and the only things to do are farming old content. Elite Dungeons are nice, I expected more, perhaps puzzles or more exploration, but they aren't bad. Sadly they are horribly unrewarding for my time compared to other PvM. So it's back to bosses that are 2+ years old. Nothing else to do.

Peaky said :
Like some others have stated, Jagex has been focusing on quality rather than quantity lately, and while I'd love more quests, quality is far more important.
Sorry, but no they really haven't. We haven't had quantity or quality.
Looking at the two quests this year, Piece of Hate was a long quest with new assests, its understandable that would take some effort. You Are It, was an extremely short quest using almost no existing assests - which is good. I think it was well written and engaging and if it took less time and resources that is great. But if they are releasing Bottle quests, I expect more of them, as part of a mix of bottle quests and larger projects.


Jagex hasn't released QUALITY or QUANTITY. That's the main issue! I agree with Nex is Life's post on this one.
I said they are focusing on quality. Not that it necessarily IS high quality, as that depends on personal tastes. I liked a majority of the quests post-Sliske's Endgame(not counting like 2 of the Menaphos quests). So, in summation, my opinion is not wrong, as it is an opinion. If you disagree, that's fine, I was throwing in my two cents. But please don't imply that my opinion is incorrect, thank you.

18-Sep-2018 04:09:48

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