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Dilbert2001
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Hunteresque said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Dulcis Nex said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Can you read post correctly? I just gave facts plus logics to predict Jagex won't be doing a lot of quests now and in the future. I did not give them reasons not to release more quests. I did not tell them not to release more quests. So what are you doing in this thread?

Players don't have to come to a thread to "support for questing and more quests". They can declare no support or neutral too. And in my case, I am neutral.

Future Game Update forums are for discussions of FUTURE Jagex announced updates, of course one has to predict things in the future.

I also did not say Jagex should not release content to make more profits. I said they are trying to spend more time on reusable content because it is more profitable. And I don't tell them to do that neither. I an neutral on that. Don't twist my words please.


The way you have been replying to me and others seems that you are far from neutral. It seems like you don't want to see new quests in the game at all because every time someone made a statement, you would always say something to support Jagex. As Jagex aren't releasing many quests at the moment, they aren't in favour of this thread clearly. So, by that definition, you are also not in favour of this thread if all you do is tell us why we can't have more quests. You haven't once suggested a positive [/quote]

I am neutral. Why do I have to force myself to be "positive".

I also suggested new quests in the making too, like Elder God quests and such. Just that I don't see gnome quests as "unfinished business" doesn't mean I do not want new quests.

17-Sep-2018 03:34:01

Hunteresque
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Dilbert2001 said :
I am neutral. Why do I have to force myself to be "positive".

I also suggested new quests in the making too, like Elder God quests and such. Just that I don't see gnome quests as "unfinished business" doesn't mean I do not want new quests.

You haven't once suggested a positive on why/how we could or should have more quests.


Okay, you have spoken about the Elder quests but that isn't suggesting how/why we could/should have more quests. You have just talked about:
"Jagex not having enough resources."
"Quests aren't reusable content."
"If developers are taken off of one aspect and put onto quests then the other department will suffer."

All of which are negative statements towards the release of more quests. Which would mean that you're more negative about it than positive. Hunteresque - The Picturesque Hunter
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17-Sep-2018 03:42:28

Dilbert2001
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Hunteresque said :
Dilbert2001 said :
I am neutral. Why do I have to force myself to be "positive".

I also suggested new quests in the making too, like Elder God quests and such. Just that I don't see gnome quests as "unfinished business" doesn't mean I do not want new quests.

You haven't once suggested a positive on why/how we could or should have more quests.


Okay, you have spoken about the Elder quests but that isn't suggesting how/why we could/should have more quests. You have just talked about:
"Jagex not having enough resources."
"Quests aren't reusable content."
"If developers are taken off of one aspect and put onto quests then the other department will suffer."

All of which are negative statements towards the release of more quests. Which would mean that you're more negative about it than positive.

Again, I am neutral. Why do I have to force myself to be "positive".


And your so-called "negative" statements were what I extracted from somebody who posted a similar thread in 2014. And that person did not seem to be "negative" again more quests at all.

http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?341,342,132,65411098,goto,1

17-Sep-2018 03:49:25

Dilbert2001
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Also, the person who posted on Page 1, Post 2:

"The complaint is common enough. Mod Osborne points out that quests have increased in quality and length over the years (quality over quantity), even with the cost of translations into German, Portuguese and French. He also pointed out that miniquests, lore books and other story content don't get appreciated as much because they're not labelled as quests.

There is player feedback (big surveys) to take into consideration. Many players will say they want even more slayer creatures and bosses.

There's the argument that quests can only be completed once, while other updates can be played infinitely.

There's the shift away from expansion updates, which threw off the 2017 update schedule.

Hopefully Jagex moves to the one-quest-per-two-months plan, but they can never really have enough quests."


This post has facts very similar to what I wrote. How come we can only post "positively" to your thread? Certainly this person also seems to differ from what you think your thread is entitled to only receive positive support.

Particularly, I totally agree with:

"There is player feedback (big surveys) to take into consideration. Many players will say they want even more slayer creatures and bosses."


Every player's feedback counts, not just yours and your supporters'. Everybody, Jagex included, needs to give everybody the same chance to voice their opinions, whether they are positive, negative or neutral. To me I want a game with good quality and balanced content. I value quality over quantity. If the next quest (hopefully the one or two before the end of this year) is good, it will more than offset the lack of quests so far.

17-Sep-2018 03:57:50 - Last edited on 17-Sep-2018 04:08:21 by Dilbert2001

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Well, I'm retiring from P2P after my membership ends in February. I'd like to see one new quest so I can get that 400th quest point, and get the pet reward for it before that time comes.

However, I can live without it. And if I miss out because Jagex is taking more time to ensure new quests are the best they can be, so be it. That is a sacrifice I'm more than willing to make.

Like some others have stated, Jagex has been focusing on quality rather than quantity lately, and while I'd love more quests, quality is far more important. That, and a majority of players only desiring more PvM updates. I'd rather Jagex stay the course for now, let them recover from the failure of expansions, perhaps then they'll be able to roll out a couple more quests per year. We certainly won't see one per month anymore, that's just a fact we'll have to accept, and embrace.

Enjoy the fact that Runescape quests are still leagues better than most other MMOs' in this day and age. Go kill 40 Goblins, get a shiny new weapon that is specific to your "class". No lore aside from brief flavor text nobody reads because the quest literally tells you the task and the reward. We have substantial LORE. Let Jagex take the time they need to craft it properly.

17-Sep-2018 14:04:00

Dulcis Nex
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The one quest per two months plan they had a couple of years is starting to seem juicy. Beats a quest every 5 months. Knowing a new quest is coming out retains my engagement and anticipation. Awhile back, when I didn't have much time on my hands I recall logging in just once every few weeks to do new quests.
Now it feels like to game is in a rut and the only things to do are farming old content. Elite Dungeons are nice, I expected more, perhaps puzzles or more exploration, but they aren't bad. Sadly they are horribly unrewarding for my time compared to other PvM. So it's back to bosses that are 2+ years old. Nothing else to do.

Peaky said :
Like some others have stated, Jagex has been focusing on quality rather than quantity lately, and while I'd love more quests, quality is far more important. Sorry, but no they really haven't. We haven't had quantity or quality.
Looking at the two quests this year, Piece of Hate was a long quest with new assests, its understandable that would take some effort. You Are It, was an extremely short quest using almost no existing assests - which is good. I think it was well written and engaging and if it took less time and resources that is great. But if they are releasing Bottle quests, I expect more of them, as part of a mix of bottle quests and larger projects. You'll get it when you deserve it.

17-Sep-2018 18:22:40

Dilbert2001
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Peaky said :
Well, I'm retiring from P2P after my membership ends in February. I'd like to see one new quest so I can get that 400th quest point, and get the pet reward for it before that time comes.

However, I can live without it. And if I miss out because Jagex is taking more time to ensure new quests are the best they can be, so be it. That is a sacrifice I'm more than willing to make.

Like some others have stated, Jagex has been focusing on quality rather than quantity lately, and while I'd love more quests, quality is far more important. That, and a majority of players only desiring more PvM updates. I'd rather Jagex stay the course for now, let them recover from the failure of expansions, perhaps then they'll be able to roll out a couple more quests per year. We certainly won't see one per month anymore, that's just a fact we'll have to accept, and embrace.

Enjoy the fact that Runescape quests are still leagues better than most other MMOs' in this day and age. Go kill 40 Goblins, get a shiny new weapon that is specific to your "class". No lore aside from brief flavor text nobody reads because the quest literally tells you the task and the reward. We have substantial LORE. Let Jagex take the time they need to craft it properly.

Although not exactly quests, the story mode and lore dropped from the elite dungeons, especially the Drogankin research notes are highly interesting. I see the kind of quality that Jmod Osborne said on the reduction of quests in favor of better quality ones, supplemented by lore from other in game sources.

What I think that helps to further improve the RPG feel of this game is more interactive NPCs. NPCs are also good sources of lore in place of quests.

17-Sep-2018 21:43:43

Hunteresque
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Dulcis Nex said :
The one quest per two months plan they had a couple of years is starting to seem juicy. Beats a quest every 5 months. Knowing a new quest is coming out retains my engagement and anticipation. Awhile back, when I didn't have much time on my hands I recall logging in just once every few weeks to do new quests.
Now it feels like to game is in a rut and the only things to do are farming old content. Elite Dungeons are nice, I expected more, perhaps puzzles or more exploration, but they aren't bad. Sadly they are horribly unrewarding for my time compared to other PvM. So it's back to bosses that are 2+ years old. Nothing else to do.

Peaky said :
Like some others have stated, Jagex has been focusing on quality rather than quantity lately, and while I'd love more quests, quality is far more important. Sorry, but no they really haven't. We haven't had quantity or quality.
Looking at the two quests this year, Piece of Hate was a long quest with new assests, its understandable that would take some effort. You Are It, was an extremely short quest using almost no existing assests - which is good. I think it was well written and engaging and if it took less time and resources that is great. But if they are releasing Bottle quests, I expect more of them, as part of a mix of bottle quests and larger projects.

Jagex hasn't released QUALITY or QUANTITY. That's the main issue! I agree with Nex is Life's post on this one. Hunteresque - The Picturesque Hunter
Master Quest Cape Owner - 20/05/2021

17-Sep-2018 23:18:47

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