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Ava Enithesi
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The new Marshall of the Guardians of Armadyl, i.e. Idria's auccessor, is named Chevyra . I later confirmed the spelling with Mod Raven. Of note is that Chevyra has an Aviansie name, but is not an Aviansie; this person (and this is MY SPECULATION) took an Aviansie name for themselves, possibly after having gone through their own Rite of Passage.
I'd of course strongly recommend watching the entire VOD of the lore marathon on YouTube, as there was generally a lot of interesting stuff there.
Oops, I gave you the wrong spelling, sorry, my brain was absolutely fried by the time we spoke later. Sorry.
The name is "Cheveeyra" (pronounced Shay-Vee-Ra). It is indeed an aviansie name given to a human. They took the name after converting to Armadyl's philosophy.
The name has an important meaning for the character when translated from the aviansie tongue, but I won't spoil that here.
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On the subject of Rite of Passage and the suggestions of smaller content put forward at RuneFest (notable the special islands thing), if we're creating an island kit, then we're actually not doing much less work than the multiple islands of Abbinah.
With that in mind, let's address the scale of RoP.
My pitch for RoP would be this:
* We are not going to give you ALL of Abbinah, but a few key islands and some skilling islands (a not insignificant amount of work, but better than a planet).
* Focus on the core quest and add in some aviansie lore tidbits across the islands, but not a thousand words of dialogue per character.
* No completely bespoke new skilling methods (To'Bit AFK hunter for example), but allow some existing resource skilling nodes. Trees/ore/etc.
This is still sizeable, but if you're ok with me bringing it down to this level then what we have is a bit more achievable. I can focus on the storytelling, rather than trying to create days worth of gameplay in a single area.
Crucially, I would like to create room for the islands on Abbinah to potentially be expanded over time, potentially even in TAPP, rather than deliver maximum Abbinah immediately.
It's still a big job! But it's not an expansion sized job.
Would this be good enough?
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Oh and those saying the premise is boring... do you really think the entire thing is a giant fetch quest? Really? Do you really think I would care as much as I do about a simple fetch quest? Please.
= Raven =
The new Marshall of the Guardians of Armadyl, i.e. Idria's auccessor, is named Chevyra . I later confirmed the spelling with Mod Raven. Of note is that Chevyra has an Aviansie name, but is not an Aviansie; this person (and this is MY SPECULATION) took an Aviansie name for themselves, possibly after having gone through their own Rite of Passage.
I'd of course strongly recommend watching the entire VOD of the lore marathon on YouTube, as there was generally a lot of interesting stuff there.
Oops, I gave you the wrong spelling, sorry, my brain was absolutely fried by the time we spoke later. Sorry.
The name is "Cheveeyra" (pronounced Shay-Vee-Ra). It is indeed an aviansie name given to a human. They took the name after converting to Armadyl's philosophy.
The name has an important meaning for the character when translated from the aviansie tongue, but I won't spoil that here.
Disclaimer: This is a planned character, but not official yet. She may cease to exist entirely.
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On the subject of Rite of Passage and the suggestions of smaller content put forward at RuneFest (notable the special islands thing), if we're creating an island kit, then we're actually not doing much less work than the multiple islands of Abbinah.
With that in mind, let's address the scale of RoP.
My pitch for RoP would be this:
* We are not going to give you ALL of Abbinah, but a few key islands and some skilling islands (a not insignificant amount of work, but better than a planet).
* Focus on the core quest and add in some aviansie lore tidbits across the islands, but not a thousand words of dialogue per character.
* No completely bespoke new skilling methods (To'Bit AFK hunter for example), but allow some existing resource skilling nodes. Trees/ore/etc.
This is still sizeable, but if you're ok with me bringing it down to this level then what we have is a bit more achievable. I can focus on the storytelling, rather than trying to create days worth of gameplay in a single area.
Crucially, I would like to create room for the islands on Abbinah to potentially be expanded over time, potentially even in TAPP, rather than deliver maximum Abbinah immediately.
It's still a big job! But it's not an expansion sized job.
Would this be good enough?
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Oh and those saying the premise is boring... do you really think the entire thing is a giant fetch quest? Really? Do you really think I would care as much as I do about a simple fetch quest? Please.
= Raven =
27-Sep-2017 11:03:40 - Last edited on 27-Sep-2017 13:02:13 by Mod Raven
Before I had assumed Armadyl found the Staff of Armadyl on Gielinor, that it is not so is curious. I don't remember where I got the assumption from on the top of my head and it is a bit of digging to find out
That the artefact isn't responsible for Abbinah's state makes the idea that it could be the hammer slightly less likely, I would say.
Personally I am not at all a fan of compromise on/ideas to replace the quest. However I don't consider a brand new skilling method important and didn't think it was ever a part of the actual quest design. Instead I imagined it was part of plans to make it fit the then upcoming expansion model which may have required a bigger package; so I am perfectly fine with seeing this go to make it more feasible.
When it comes to less islands and dialogue I am not such a fan, I would want to see as much as possible here. So if you cut the new skilling method, totally fine, but the rest I would hold on to as much as possible.
In the original design the only skilling I am aware of is that there'd be a form of resources on Abbinah, and you could get to them by exploring and in return discover lore tidbits, which I see is still part of the pitch. So I think skilling-wise it's all good. Rite of Passage
That the artefact isn't responsible for Abbinah's state makes the idea that it could be the hammer slightly less likely, I would say.
Personally I am not at all a fan of compromise on/ideas to replace the quest. However I don't consider a brand new skilling method important and didn't think it was ever a part of the actual quest design. Instead I imagined it was part of plans to make it fit the then upcoming expansion model which may have required a bigger package; so I am perfectly fine with seeing this go to make it more feasible.
When it comes to less islands and dialogue I am not such a fan, I would want to see as much as possible here. So if you cut the new skilling method, totally fine, but the rest I would hold on to as much as possible.
In the original design the only skilling I am aware of is that there'd be a form of resources on Abbinah, and you could get to them by exploring and in return discover lore tidbits, which I see is still part of the pitch. So I think skilling-wise it's all good. Rite of Passage
01-Oct-2017 13:42:09
Fiksii
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Personally I am not at all a fan of compromise on/ideas to replace the quest.
And I'd rather get something than be strung along forever for an idea far too ambitious for its budget. I think in order to really well and truly "do it justice," the world needed for this quest would be as much work to make as The Arc, Prifddinas, or Menaphos (and Armadyl forbid it be "batched"
. That's why Mod Raven proposes to just give us as much of the world as is necessary in order to just get
this quest
. Would I ideally have loved to see RoP as a part of an Expansion, perhaps the introductory quest to unlock full access to Abbinah, with another quest or two with it on release? Of course. But that's just flat-out
never going to happen
.
Fiksii said :
When it comes to less islands and dialogue I am not such a fan, I would want to see as much as possible here. So if you cut the new skilling method, totally fine, but the rest I would hold on to as much as possible.
I don't interpret Mod Raven's proposal to be a cut on any dialogue or story. In fact, we might even be getting more dialogue with this proposal (as opposed to a more rewards-focused proposal), or some post-quest lore tidbits to search for after the quest is done (akin to the Memoriam Crystals from Fate of the Gods ).
By focusing on the "core quest," the lore and interactions with characters will take precedence over adding in any superfluous islands that aren't necessary for the actual quest. I think he really just meant that each character won't have 1000 words. I would imagine Aralim or Cheveeyra would still have a lot to say, but if, for example, Taw'Paak or Taka'ra make an appearance, they'd have less to say since they are not as crucial to the plot.
Personally I am not at all a fan of compromise on/ideas to replace the quest.
And I'd rather get something than be strung along forever for an idea far too ambitious for its budget. I think in order to really well and truly "do it justice," the world needed for this quest would be as much work to make as The Arc, Prifddinas, or Menaphos (and Armadyl forbid it be "batched"
. That's why Mod Raven proposes to just give us as much of the world as is necessary in order to just get
this quest
. Would I ideally have loved to see RoP as a part of an Expansion, perhaps the introductory quest to unlock full access to Abbinah, with another quest or two with it on release? Of course. But that's just flat-out
never going to happen
.
Fiksii said :
When it comes to less islands and dialogue I am not such a fan, I would want to see as much as possible here. So if you cut the new skilling method, totally fine, but the rest I would hold on to as much as possible.
I don't interpret Mod Raven's proposal to be a cut on any dialogue or story. In fact, we might even be getting more dialogue with this proposal (as opposed to a more rewards-focused proposal), or some post-quest lore tidbits to search for after the quest is done (akin to the Memoriam Crystals from Fate of the Gods ).
By focusing on the "core quest," the lore and interactions with characters will take precedence over adding in any superfluous islands that aren't necessary for the actual quest. I think he really just meant that each character won't have 1000 words. I would imagine Aralim or Cheveeyra would still have a lot to say, but if, for example, Taw'Paak or Taka'ra make an appearance, they'd have less to say since they are not as crucial to the plot.
03-Oct-2017 18:43:16
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