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Deltaslug

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@Dilbert
Part of the issue is also how far along the development is.
Did they just finish writing the design concept and gotten the art team to just draw some fancy pictures?
Have they written a few hundred lines of code and let the character and background model/creation team working on in game models?
Is most of the code written and it is heavily reliant on QA and rework at the moment?

19-Aug-2020 22:20:35

Dilbert2001
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Deltaslug said :
@Dilbert
Part of the issue is also how far along the development is.
Did they just finish writing the design concept and gotten the art team to just draw some fancy pictures?
Have they written a few hundred lines of code and let the character and background model/creation team working on in game models?
Is most of the code written and it is heavily reliant on QA and rework at the moment?

It won't matter as I already mentioned they said in the Lore Q&A livestream a typical quest of Desperate Measures' quality takes 3-4 months to develop from the beginning to the end. We know they started developing Desperate Measures after the release of Archaeology. Yes, it took about 3-4 months for the whole project life cycle of Desperate Measures, so if the new quest takes the same 3-4 months for its full project lifecycle, it is likely one with the quality of Desperate Measures.

19-Aug-2020 22:50:37

Dilbert2001
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Cam8528 said :
can we get a quest and major content release around the city of arposandra? i really want to see arposandra because that quest the prisoner of glouphrie was really good imo

Jmods said in many occasions the answer is no because they don't want to create more useless maps. When they create a new map, it has to be something of significant interests, like Anachronia which holds a lot of significant lore both in the past, now and the future. The gnome story can be considered finished anyway. Gnomes seem to be quite irrelevant in their own (probably finished) storyline too as their representatives are going outside gnome lands to participate in other storylines and lore like Desperate Times and Anachronia.

Another interesting point of note is the Arposanda representative Glout is invited to Desperate Times alongside the Tree Gnome King. Evidently there is no conflict , let along hatred or wars whatsoever between the tree gnomes and the Arprosandra gnomes. Glout also likes Ancient Potterington so much he visit her often and buy our dinos.

22-Aug-2020 22:55:27 - Last edited on 22-Aug-2020 23:27:08 by Dilbert2001

Fat N Wacky
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Cam8528 said :
can we get a quest and major content release around the city of arposandra? i really want to see arposandra because that quest the prisoner of glouphrie was really good imo

At some point, probably, yeah. It's an incomplete storyline, it's unfinished business, and at some point, it'll probably be addressed. It clearly hasn't been forgotten, judging by the occasional Arposandran Gnome on the Ranch Out of Time, and the Arposandran Gnome on Seren's Council in Burthorpe during Desperate Times and Desperate Measures. Every indication is that, yeah, the plan is for that story to be continued and concluded at some point. It's just a matter of Jagex getting their questing shit together, and increasing their output.

Whether or not that'll happen, happen easily, etc., or what... is a whole other can of worms.

Here's what's currently known about Gnome VII, though:

Fat N Wacky said :


GNOME VII


- Sequel to The Prisoner of Glouphrie
- Largely written
- May be the finale
- May pick up the story Monkey Madness left hanging
- Will involve going to the city of Arposandra
- It's considered a piece of content that players "would like to tick off" but not "one that they desperately want"
- It sounds like Jagex has been ticking off "unfinished business" (first Prifddinas, then Menaphos, then effectively Fossil Island) and they're looking to see what major piece of "unfinished business" players rally behind next. They don't estimate it'll be the Gnome Finale & Arposandra.




PS: Heads-up Dilbert; I know you're going to reply to this. As a courtesy, know that it'll be a waste of your time. I will not engage you.
The best things in life are h i dden. You have to seek them out! :D

23-Aug-2020 13:34:02 - Last edited on 23-Aug-2020 13:40:21 by Fat N Wacky

Dilbert2001
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@Fat N Wacky

"PS: Heads-up Dilbert; I know you're going to reply to this. As a courtesy, know that it'll be a waste of your time. I will not engage you."


I don't always just reply to a single person and I don't expect anybody to reply to my reply if they don't want to anyway. I never consider sharing my opinions to the ones who want to or don't want to reply a waste of time whatsoever.

@everybody else who wants to talk about the gnome stories

Glout, the representative from Arprosandra clearly has no beef with the tree gnomes, humans or any other races on Gielinor as he clearly didn't remotely mention a thing regarding it. He is happy to be invited to talk with every other race on Gielinor. It is his pleasure.

"GLOUT:As representative of the great city of Arposandra, it is my honour to witness these proceedings today."


In fact, through his very few dialogues in Desperate Times, we can see Arprosandra is quite petty that it can't even sport a garden to plan a seed, plus their self-contained ecosystem doesn't allow them to afford a seed anyway:

"Do you have anywhere we could plant the garden?
GLOUT:Alas, the great city of Arposandra is not large enough to house such a garden."


"Do you have any seeds we could use?
GLOUT:I'm afraid not. We have a very self-contained ecosystem and we simply cannot spare the seeds."


They are not involved in alliances and apparently don't have much political activities anyway:
Do you have any advice?

"GLOUT:I'm afraid we don't really deal with the other alliances much. I have no advice to offer."


Does anybody have any facts from official lore to show us just because ONE SINGLE gnome with a twisted mind went to Arprosanda almost 20 years ago then it implies the entire Arprosandra will have some bones to pick with Gielinor?

23-Aug-2020 20:37:59 - Last edited on 23-Aug-2020 20:41:18 by Dilbert2001

Mauhur
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@Dilbert2001

By all accounts, it seems to me your average Arposandran gnome has a pretty normal view of things. Nevertheless, we should not forget their involvement with the Red Axe. Even if only a minority of Arposandran gnomes were involved with that debacle, the fact a diplomat from the city was seeing Hreidmar means something would've gone down had the player not interfered.

Now, as for your contention about the Gnome storyline being finished. I disagree. The storyline most certainly is not finished considering Bolrie will call upon the player for assistance at a later date similarly to how Bill Teach asked the player to wait and train up for the next time they'll be needed. (Pieces of Hate)

I believe the issue lies with the scope of this project, Jagex's confidence in the finale, and player expectations. Prifddinas was by far the most imporant, grandest, and most successful land expansion Jagex has ever undertaken. Dare I say it, many would consider it the While Guthix Sleeps of expansions. In contrast, Menaphos was widely panned and does not see anywhere near the same amount of traffic as good ol' Prif. Then we have Anachronia, which is a big landmass that is comparably light on content. Again, not as well received as Prif, but at least it's going somewhere unlike Menaphos.

Really, if Arposandra is to enter the game Jagex is going to have to make the city stand out from its competitors. At the moment, I don't see how they can. Prif really hit the nail on the head in terms of endgame content and rewards. It'll be super hard to figure out a niche for Arposandra to occupy without overlapping content with the aforementioned expansion areas.

Like other many other questing players, I'd love to see the Gnome finale hit the game. However, I just don't see how Jagex can pull it off considering the other things they have on their plate. The more you think about it the easier it is to see why Jagex has put this storyline off for so long.

27-Aug-2020 17:11:29

Mauhur
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To build upon what I've said in my previous post, I'm not saying Menaphos and Anachronia are dead content. Far from it because they each offer something Prif does not. Graphically, I like Menaphos a great deal because it actually looks like a city unlike Prif. There are also some useful skilling spots to unlock and a good high level slayer dungeon to boot. Anachronia offers us a different take on hunting, more slayer targets, and some great passive benefits in the form of the totems.

Nevertheless, a lot of people rightly point out neither area can match Prif for its general usefulness. The only other expansion that could possibly match Prif content-wise would be the continent of Zeah, which is currently OSRS only. If Jagex seriously wants Zeah to appear in RS3, that would give the RS3 Prif a run for its money if OSRS Zeah is anything to go by.

However, the rumored Zeah expansion, even if only just a rumor, would still seriously impact Arposandra's chances of becoming a reality in-game. After all, nobody has suggested what content or identity that city will posses that could have us returning to it for more like Prif does. Unless it offers the new best ever training methods, which would present Jagex with serious balancing issues, Arposandra will have to get content that is unique to it only.

27-Aug-2020 17:24:31

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