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== Quests in the Making V3 ==
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Miu
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While I agree that RS3's quest release schedule is in an extremely sorry state; You have to remember that OSRS has two enormous advantages over RS3: One is that development time is much, much shorter, and the other is that OSRS has the benefit of being able to learn from RS3's mistakes. If the stuff OSRS does that RS3 did before it doesn't fix some of the issues that RS3's version of that stuff has, then, frankly and bluntly, they're doing life wrong. You're supposed to learn from mistakes, both others' and your own.
Yes, RS3's quest release schedule is abysmal and needs colossal improvement, but even if that weren't the case, comparing it to OSRS it will still inevitably fall short because it has an inherent disadvantage.
Dilbert2001 said :
ROFL!!!
Please be civil.
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RS3 and OSRS share an identical near 7 years' worth of updates, and therefore quests, foreshadowing, buildup, and so on and so forth, before they each veered off in their own directions (RS3 for a further 13 years, OSRS for a further 7). It makes an awful lot of sense, then, for RS3 and OSRS to continue to share some plot points even after the fork from 2007 RS2. You're somehow evaluating that as proof that OSRS is in this way bad; That makes absolutely zero sense. Of course Sins of the Father has a lot in common with The Branches of Darkmeyer, they're different continuations of the same storyline . Have you ever seen Fullmetal Alchemist, and Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood? They share a virtually identical beginning, and then their plots split and head in different, albeit eerily similar directions. Does the simple fact that their distinct conclusions still manage to share some eerie similarities inherently make one of the stories lower quality?? No! That's preposterous!
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While I agree that RS3's quest release schedule is in an extremely sorry state; You have to remember that OSRS has two enormous advantages over RS3: One is that development time is much, much shorter, and the other is that OSRS has the benefit of being able to learn from RS3's mistakes. If the stuff OSRS does that RS3 did before it doesn't fix some of the issues that RS3's version of that stuff has, then, frankly and bluntly, they're doing life wrong. You're supposed to learn from mistakes, both others' and your own.
Yes, RS3's quest release schedule is abysmal and needs colossal improvement, but even if that weren't the case, comparing it to OSRS it will still inevitably fall short because it has an inherent disadvantage.
Dilbert2001 said :
ROFL!!!
Please be civil.
Dilbert2001 said :
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RS3 and OSRS share an identical near 7 years' worth of updates, and therefore quests, foreshadowing, buildup, and so on and so forth, before they each veered off in their own directions (RS3 for a further 13 years, OSRS for a further 7). It makes an awful lot of sense, then, for RS3 and OSRS to continue to share some plot points even after the fork from 2007 RS2. You're somehow evaluating that as proof that OSRS is in this way bad; That makes absolutely zero sense. Of course Sins of the Father has a lot in common with The Branches of Darkmeyer, they're different continuations of the same storyline . Have you ever seen Fullmetal Alchemist, and Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood? They share a virtually identical beginning, and then their plots split and head in different, albeit eerily similar directions. Does the simple fact that their distinct conclusions still manage to share some eerie similarities inherently make one of the stories lower quality?? No! That's preposterous!
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Dilbert2001
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Of course if you count from OSRS' release date, RS3 has released more quests. OSRS didn't release quests for years because it was still finding itself, finding its groove. OSRS was unsure if it was going to release content of its own of a large or significant size. Since its begun to, not one year has gone by where RS3 has released more quests than OSRS. 2017 was the first full year OSRS was releasing quests; that year it came out with 6. That year, RS3 had the same amount. 2018, both games released the same amount of new quests again. In 2019, however, OSRS released 5 new quests, and RS3 only 3. As far as 2020, it's only half done so far, but RS3's plan is 2 total quests, with the possibility of a third. IDK what OSRS' plan is, but if you really care about 2020 let's come back at the end of the year and do a proper comparison.
OSRS either ties or wins out against RS3 on its quest release schedule. It may not be phenomenal, but it's indisputably better.
That conclusion even sticks if you do count from OSRS' release, because a proper count is objective. In other words, how far has the game in question come? OSRS started out by releasing 0 quests a year, and since has improved to between 4 and 6 quests a year. That's an indisputably upwards trend. Compare that to RS3's: 2013 had 6. 2014 had 7. 2015 had 7. 2016 had 7. 2017 had 6. 2018 had 4. 2019 had 3. 2020 will have 2, or maximum, 3. That's an indisputably downwards trend.
Exactly how is OSRS' release schedule worse? Your comment makes no sense at all.
Dilbert2001 said :
...and RS3 is abysmal and OSRS is great? That's a strawman fallacy. I never said OSRS' quest release schedule is "great," I only ever said that RS3's was abysmal, and that RS3's quest release schedule is inferior to OSRS'. Both of which are indisputable facts. I did not speak objectively to OSRS' quest release schedule.
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Of course if you count from OSRS' release date, RS3 has released more quests. OSRS didn't release quests for years because it was still finding itself, finding its groove. OSRS was unsure if it was going to release content of its own of a large or significant size. Since its begun to, not one year has gone by where RS3 has released more quests than OSRS. 2017 was the first full year OSRS was releasing quests; that year it came out with 6. That year, RS3 had the same amount. 2018, both games released the same amount of new quests again. In 2019, however, OSRS released 5 new quests, and RS3 only 3. As far as 2020, it's only half done so far, but RS3's plan is 2 total quests, with the possibility of a third. IDK what OSRS' plan is, but if you really care about 2020 let's come back at the end of the year and do a proper comparison.
OSRS either ties or wins out against RS3 on its quest release schedule. It may not be phenomenal, but it's indisputably better.
That conclusion even sticks if you do count from OSRS' release, because a proper count is objective. In other words, how far has the game in question come? OSRS started out by releasing 0 quests a year, and since has improved to between 4 and 6 quests a year. That's an indisputably upwards trend. Compare that to RS3's: 2013 had 6. 2014 had 7. 2015 had 7. 2016 had 7. 2017 had 6. 2018 had 4. 2019 had 3. 2020 will have 2, or maximum, 3. That's an indisputably downwards trend.
Exactly how is OSRS' release schedule worse? Your comment makes no sense at all.
Dilbert2001 said :
...and RS3 is abysmal and OSRS is great? That's a strawman fallacy. I never said OSRS' quest release schedule is "great," I only ever said that RS3's was abysmal, and that RS3's quest release schedule is inferior to OSRS'. Both of which are indisputable facts. I did not speak objectively to OSRS' quest release schedule.
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08-Jul-2020 02:31:22
Updated the sections on Desperate Measures and the Orthen Dig Site to reflect the information given in the recent livestream.
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08-Jul-2020 02:45:27
Dilbert2001
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RS3 will have at least 2 and likely 3 or more.
Your bias is showing; There is 0 indication that RS3 could have more than 3 quests released this year. The count is two, and a possible third, according to the stream. That does not equate to "likely 3 or more."
Have a good day, and happy 'scaping.
RS3 will have at least 2 and likely 3 or more.
Your bias is showing; There is 0 indication that RS3 could have more than 3 quests released this year. The count is two, and a possible third, according to the stream. That does not equate to "likely 3 or more."
Have a good day, and happy 'scaping.
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09-Jul-2020 00:57:12
Fat N Wacky
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Dilbert2001 said :
RS3 will have at least 2 and likely 3 or more.
Your bias is showing; There is 0 indication that RS3 could have more than 3 quests released this year. The count is two, and a possible third, according to the stream. That does not equate to "likely 3 or more."
Have a good day, and happy 'scaping.
How is that my bias when OSRS clearly won't have more than 2 quests this year and therefore at least, if not more abysmal than RS3 in quests? It is crystal clear OSRS is also reducing the number of quests and don't even try to use the stupid excuse that they aren't sure they need quests like in 2013.
The March and June OSRS Gielinor Gazette shows us what is killing OSRS quests clearly:
Form the March Gazette:
However, the June Gazette, the planned release date is totally omitted and they added clearly there is currently no new progress at all and won't be until the 2nd League has been launched:
Even strawmen know quests in OSRS are giving way to Easyscape events. OSRS players just need to accept the obvious drought in OSRS quests while enjoying the game's transformation into Easysape and Eventscape.
Dilbert2001 said :
RS3 will have at least 2 and likely 3 or more.
Your bias is showing; There is 0 indication that RS3 could have more than 3 quests released this year. The count is two, and a possible third, according to the stream. That does not equate to "likely 3 or more."
Have a good day, and happy 'scaping.
How is that my bias when OSRS clearly won't have more than 2 quests this year and therefore at least, if not more abysmal than RS3 in quests? It is crystal clear OSRS is also reducing the number of quests and don't even try to use the stupid excuse that they aren't sure they need quests like in 2013.
The March and June OSRS Gielinor Gazette shows us what is killing OSRS quests clearly:
Form the March Gazette:
"A Kingdom Divided:
The next quest in the Kourend series is planned for release later this year
. It's still a long way until launch, and current work is design focused. Mod Ed is fleshing out the narrative design while Mod West is looking at the main quest rewards and new spells for the Arceuus spellbook."
However, the June Gazette, the planned release date is totally omitted and they added clearly there is currently no new progress at all and won't be until the 2nd League has been launched:
"A Kingdom Divided: As with last month,
there's no new progress to report on A Kingdom Divided right now. Work isn't set to begin on the project until after the second League has been launched.
For anyone not aware, A Kingdom Divided is the next quest in the Kourend storyline and it is set to offer some new Arceuus spells as a reward."
Even strawmen know quests in OSRS are giving way to Easyscape events. OSRS players just need to accept the obvious drought in OSRS quests while enjoying the game's transformation into Easysape and Eventscape.
09-Jul-2020 02:52:01
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