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15-Jul-2019 19:00:53 - Last edited on 15-Jul-2019 19:05:43 by Dilbert2001

I added a link to Fiksii's fantastic thread on Rite of Passage to its entry under "Shelved Content." On that note, if anyone knows any other equally fantastic deep-dive threads on other pieces of upcoming lore content, please let me know and I'll add links to them in the appropriate places. Thanks!!

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18-Jul-2019 13:26:22 - Last edited on 18-Jul-2019 20:42:34 by Fat N Wacky

We know the upcoming quests are going to have Elder Gods involved, I guess it is pretty safe to assume some other Gielinor gods are going to be indirectly involved.

First off, we know Zaros left unhappily at the end of Sliske Endgame after his petition to become an Elder God got turned down. But where is he and what is he up to now?

We know he did not show up in the Desperate Time meeting, even it was clearly organized by his sister Seren to save Gielinor. Why did he not participate? Well, we need to know the personality of Zaros first. He is the Empty Lord. He doesn't care about the others. He only cares about himself. It was his tyranny that led to Zamorak's mutiny and his banishment. He used his sister to kill his mother Mah so he could find an excuse to become an Elder God.

We also know Zaro left his fellow Mahjarrats in Freneskae. He is not going to save any worlds, any people because he only cares for HIMSELF. He may kill other gods like Zamorak or even his sister Seren if they get in his way to become the tyrant of the whole multiverse. My prediction (based on his personality and his actions in the game) to Zaro's involvement in the future Elder God stories is he will side with whoever grants him Elder Godhood or the equivalence of the highest rank among all Gods/immortals.

Now onto the lesser gods... and let's start with Zamorak. We know the Ritual of the Mahjarrats are still ongoing... but who will be sacrificed next? I think Zamorak is the most likely candidate since his supports are almost gone now. He was defeated by Zaros soundly. He no longer has any Elder Artifact, and he also doesn't have many loyal followers left. We also saw the unhappy black knights from the Curse of the Black Stone. You get the picture when nuts like Evil Dave was featured as the "follower" of Zamorak. Oh and where was Zammy when Moia was in trouble?

Next up on Saradomin... a little later...

18-Jul-2019 21:37:17 - Last edited on 18-Jul-2019 21:40:04 by Dilbert2001

20-Jul-2019 19:13:14

Immortalized said :
mahjarrat no longer need to perform rituals

I've been correcting him since another thread, lol. He just keeps going; Everything's in one ear and out the other. I only bothered the first time because he was directing his misinformation at someone else.

I'd forgotten to correct him on that, though, lol. You're right; Mahjarrat don't need to perform rituals since Children of Mah, yet another reason he's off his rocker about Zamorak.

The best things in life are h i dden. You have to seek them out!

20-Jul-2019 19:38:29 - Last edited on 20-Jul-2019 19:41:22 by Fat N Wacky

21-Jul-2019 03:17:01

21-Jul-2019 20:38:37

Jack Flac said :
Dilbert2001 said :


We also know Zaro left his fellow Mahjarrats in Freneskae.

But Zaros isn't a Mahjarrat...

Zaros is also a Mahjarrat which means Children of Mah. Both Zaros and Seren are Children of Mah.

21-Jul-2019 20:51:53

Dilbert2001 said :
Jack Flac said :
Dilbert2001 said :


We also know Zaro left his fellow Mahjarrats in Freneskae.

But Zaros isn't a Mahjarrat...

Zaros is also a Mahjarrat which means Children of Mah. Both Zaros and Seren are Children of Mah.

You're wrong again. "Mahjarrat" is a tribe, not a species. The word "Mahjarrat" means "Children of Mah." The Mahserrat, the Mahkorat, and the Chelon-Mah were all the same species as the Mahjarrat. Their species is called "Dreams of Mah." Zaros and Seren do not belong to that species. Just because they were created by Mah like the Dreams of Mah does not automatically make them the same species as the Dreams of Mah.

@Jack Flac: You're right, Dilbert's wrong.

The best things in life are h i dden. You have to seek them out!

22-Jul-2019 00:13:05 - Last edited on 22-Jul-2019 00:14:12 by Fat N Wacky

Fat N Wacky said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Jack Flac said :
Dilbert2001 said :


We also know Zaro left his fellow Mahjarrats in Freneskae.

But Zaros isn't a Mahjarrat...

Zaros is also a Mahjarrat which means Children of Mah. Both Zaros and Seren are Children of Mah.

You're wrong again. "Mahjarrat" is a tribe, not a species. The word "Mahjarrat" means "Children of Mah." The Mahserrat, the Mahkorat, and the Chelon-Mah were all the same species as the Mahjarrat. Their species is called "Dreams of Mah." Zaros and Seren do not belong to that species. Just because they were created by Mah like the Dreams of Mah does not automatically make them the same species as the Dreams of Mah.

@Jack Flac: You're right, Dilbert's wrong.

As usual, please show the in game or Jmod reference of your claim. Your claim is no different than man is a tribe but not a species and Jesus was not a man.

Frankly, even NPC gods like Zaros don't know much about themselves and the Mahjarrat. For instance, Zaros did not even know Seren had been pretending to be Mah to fool the Mahjarrats for their scheduled Ritual every 500 years. In fact, he even foolishly thought by stopping Mah's energy would prevent the once every 500 year Ritual of the Mahjarrat. Good thing he was proven wrong by Zamorak that even after Mah's nightware was stopped, "her" energy was still there to hinder the Mahjarrat and subsequently they found out that it was Seren, but not Mah who caused the need for the scheduled Ritual of The Mahjarrat. The crowd then tried to kill Seren but Zaros stopped them and Seren teleported away. That's the ACTUAL story.

Arguing the meaning of words/terms/facts that even the NPC gods don't have precise definition is simply useless.

22-Jul-2019 16:24:19 - Last edited on 22-Jul-2019 16:42:34 by Dilbert2001