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Qwis7
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You do know hat he means with dead.
It is dead no one plays it anymore thalers also made it even worse.
Players just camp for long time not playing just afk and are angry if you play like normal.

You just twist people words again stop it!

01-Nov-2023 18:06:07

A  Cole
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Qwis7 said :
You just twist people words again stop it!
Yet, here he is getting twisted around himself ;-)


Dilbert2001 said :
You have to tell us what "dead" means. Old school minigames still exist, and in RS3's case, there are even more ways to find groups thanks to Spotlight. To many players they aren't "dead" otherwise there won't be thalers. If you think they are "dead", then it is only your perception, To me, old school minigames like BA are dead if you are looking to do just BA for whatever reason, however, the remastered old school minigames are certainly still alive in the form of Spotlight.
Dilbert2001 said :
The old minigames are dead, even in OSRS. The difference is there is no Thaler system in OSRS so players are locked out from minigame rewards.

Old minigames are dead, and we don't want to do disturb the dead. Just let them rest in place and we replace them with modern and future minigames modern and future gamers are long for.
It's also widely acknowledged that the Thaler system has killed many minigames. Yes, it has given access to many rewards , but it was another nail in the coffin for those minigames those rewards came from.

People still like to play them. They simply cannot play them because others have no reason to go to make the numbers up.

Dilbert2001 said :
Wrong! The kind of solo focused content that still works is the D&D category, not the old school grindfest where you have to keep doing them religiously for a long time to get currencies to buy a Torso or such.
This is a big claim, considering not all D&Ds are popular, and that most of RS is a grindfest.

If what you're saying is true, we may as well get rid of everything that is a grind, such as boss pets, skilling, and drop logs, and replace them all with D&Ds.

You're arguing for the sake of arguing now. Nothing you say makes any sense to anybody.


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01-Nov-2023 18:39:23

Dilbert2001
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Qwis7 said :
You do know hat he means with dead.
It is dead no one plays it anymore thalers also made it even worse.
Players just camp for long time not playing just afk and are angry if you play like normal.

You just twist people words again stop it!


"Ok, minigames are dead."
- OP

Go argue or agree with OP, I don't care. Different people just have different definitions of "dead".

Thalers make old school minigames a million times better. We can at least make progress in getting Void Knight and such SOLO and ANYTIME with thalers. That serves the purpose of players who want to get old school rewards and without the depression of finding groups.

Thalers also give plenty of other benefits like letting skillers get combat minigames items like Soul Wars pets without combat and combat players get skilling items like Diverner and RC outfits through combat minigames and no skilling.

01-Nov-2023 18:47:07

Dilbert2001
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"It's also widely acknowledged that the Thaler system has killed many minigames"


Widely acknowledged? From what sources? And please tell us why these old school minigames died in OSRS too where there is no Thaler system?

01-Nov-2023 18:48:36

Qwis7
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Dilbert just stop it you know what we did tell you do not try to turn it around.

I did gave you plenty enough views you keep twisting these.
No one ever did say a thing about osrs.

but even if you come up with it it proofs my point even more!
People only play for the rewards.
Like i did say exp/money or best armor slots.
Runescape 3 tried thalers read my post about that problem.

Once again I try to tell you stop twisting peoples words you can also just simply agree or not.
Argument is fine, but psychologic twisting words.

01-Nov-2023 19:06:02

Dilbert2001
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Qwis7 just stop it you know what OP thought us minigames are dead by its definition, not A Cole's or yours. You keep twisting these.

If grinding such old school minigames for standalone currencies for an eternity was so good, all the other games would be doing them now. The fact is the RS3 team told us way back even before OSRS the world didn't play like this so they introduced D&D.

Old school minigames died before 2013 and Thalers, just don't pretend they didn't. Please which game with such old school minigames still see many players playing them?

If you want people to agree with you, please (1) don't twist other people's words, and more importantly (2) provide factual sources.

01-Nov-2023 20:15:19

H 1 L D A
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Actually - between OSRS and RS3 it really depends on the minigame being discussed whether or not it's dead.

A rare example of a minigame that is seemingly more active in RuneScape 3 (when counting W3 F2P, taking it all for a grain of salt) is Clan Wars. CWS is a game that offers no rewards to either playerbase, has a more in depth rules and arenas list in Old School (Mod Ash, who worked extensively on CWS in both games, is currently an OSRS dev.) but the PvP aspect is in direct competition with Wildy pking/BH/PvP Worlds and players today are more inclined to pk for more than just the sport of it. Old School's CWS also has to co-exist with Last Man Standing, a minigame that outright rewards players with useful upgrades and supplies at no risk. On the other hand - Rs3's CWS is propped up by World 3's incredibly casual F2P scene. Players who are as burnt out on RuneScape as possible but haven't yet left.

The traditional "bad-minigames" see far more participation in Old School RuneScape than they do in RuneScape 3, and there are two reasons for this:

> There is no Spotlight/Thaler system, which would otherwise kill participation in bad minigames because paying with a general currency would be preferable over having to suffer through Trouble Brewing or Barbarian Assault.

> Minigames also are intrinsically tied to Achievement Diaries, meaning that even after players pick up their Fighter Torso, there are more gameplay incentives to continue leveling all of your roles to 5 over (If you're a Clue Scroller - getting the Elite Kandarin Headset provides infinite teleports to Sherlock, and that requires maxing all roles in BA.)

More often than not - Old School RuneScape has placed an emphasis on encouraging players on earning account unlocks through mini-games in order to preserve the experiences' value. They also do a good job of introducing reasons to return to them (such as the Elite Void, etc.)
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01-Nov-2023 20:41:15

Dilbert2001
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"Actually - between OSRS and RS3 it really depends on the minigame being discussed whether or not it's dead.

A rare example of a minigame that is seemingly more active in RuneScape 3 (when counting W3 F2P, taking it all for a grain of salt) is Clan Wars. "


Everything with CLAN involved is more active in RS3, not just minigames.

This is also a modern day pattern in most games. RS3 in clans do play minigames, but mostly with their own clanmates. Even with RS3 players playing OSRS like Maikeru couldn't have much luck with grouping in their OSRS stream. We can see from their livestream 9 days ago when they tried BA. Nobody was there, and hopping worlds only found themselves running into some OSRS players dissing them.

You may say the robust CLAN system discourage old school minigames, but to me playing with people of the like mind is far better than having problems with random strangers including bots and scammers and RMT. We often we clans running open world events like Mega Duck, boss masses, fashionscape in RS3 similar to a lot of other games.

01-Nov-2023 21:29:53 - Last edited on 01-Nov-2023 21:35:49 by Dilbert2001

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