RuneScape Forum Archive | Future of minigames?

Nov

2003

A Cole

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Like I said, minigames and Flash Events are totally different pieces of content. People play them for different reasons. You simply cannot say that Flash Events are the successor to minigames.

Take the Wilderness Flash Events right now. The only popular events are those that give a chance of a high value item. The other events, despite offering good XP rates, are not popular. This tells me that people don't necessarily enjoy the Flash Event content - they merely do it to get rich.

Minigames, on the other hand, can be enjoyed despite low GP and XP returns. Solo minigames are still enjoyed by many - Flash Powder Factory for example. Multi-player minigames are pretty much dead content.

The only difference is the number of people required to start a game. Fix this, the "dead content" description disappears.

~A~

30-Oct-2023 00:27:48

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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Of course Flash Events and old school minigames are totally different pieces of content. Modern players play flash events but not old school minigames. Flash events aren't the successor of old school minigames, they are the replacements of the dead old school minigames by natural selection of the 2023 gamers.

You forgot about the big xp rewards of Wildy Flash Events. Plenty of players still play them for xp. I send my alts for Surprise Seeding among other even non-special events for great easy and resource free xp gain.

We have solo minigames already, but also in the from of D&D. Try Guthixian Cache, Giant Chinchompa, Evil Tree, Shooting Stars, all kinds of Macab D&D and daillies etc. We have a lot of them actually. Let's say if the current WIldy Flash Event at the top of the hour is a combat event and you don't care about combat xp because we can gain it fast from a lot of other sources, you can go to Guthixian Cache. The choices are there.

30-Oct-2023 15:16:43 - Last edited on 30-Oct-2023 15:18:31 by Dilbert2001

Nov

2003

A Cole

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Dilbert2001 said :
Of course Flash Events and old school minigames are totally different pieces of content. Modern players play flash events but not old school minigames. Flash events aren't the successor of old school minigames, they are the replacements of the dead old school minigames by natural selection of the 2023 gamers. Aka natural successor by your definition.

Dilbert2001 said :
You forgot about the big xp rewards of Wildy Flash Events. Plenty of players still play them for xp. I send my alts for Surprise Seeding among other even non-special events for great easy and resource free xp gain. A Cole said :
The other events, despite offering good XP rates, are not popular. I did not forget about the big XP rewards, and saying they are not popular does not mean the same as they are not being used. It simply means they are not seeing the same numbers of people flock to them as the KBD / Tree / Star events.

Dilbert2001 said :
We have solo minigames already, but also in the from of D&D. Try Guthixian Cache, Giant Chinchompa, Evil Tree, Shooting Stars, all kinds of Macab D&D and daillies etc. We have a lot of them actually. Let's say if the current WIldy Flash Event at the top of the hour is a combat event and you don't care about combat xp because we can gain it fast from a lot of other sources, you can go to Guthixian Cache. The choices are there. Indeed they are. This is all the proof we need to say that single-player modes for minigames work. This is what can make those dead minigames plausible content again.

~A~

30-Oct-2023 17:36:30

Deltaslug

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I agree, at minimum they need to be soloable.

I agree with A Cole, the Wilderness Flash Events aren't the replacement for minigames. But ... their mechanic of having 1 person take part and scaling up, is what a lot of them need to be.

31-Oct-2023 04:45:31

Aug

2010

Qwis7

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People only do flash events because of the posseble rewsrds it have.
Flash events are not some kind of improvement its just the rewards.

Like I did say old minigames and fun house partys are no longer play able because of the mindset of player.
These days people are just addicted to more rewards badicly.
More money! More exp!!!
I just totally hate this mindset honestly.

Sometimes I just walk around geilinor not earning exp or money.
Just walk around and examine read bit lore etc etc.
Its just what RS has become we have to accept it sadly.

31-Oct-2023 16:16:06

Nov

2003

A Cole

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Qwis7 said :
Its just what RS has become we have to accept it sadly. Like you said, you walk around Gielinor not caring about XP and GP rewards.

There are many other players like you. They simply cannot access some of the content they want to because it's locked behind joining other players at the same time to access them.

When more and more new content arrives, it dilutes the player base across much more content, meaning access to group minigames becomes almost impossible.

The problem isn't necessarily the player mindset. It's that those with a different mindset cannot access the areas they want.

~A~

31-Oct-2023 16:43:43

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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@A Cole

"Aka natural successor by your definition."

Not exactly, as they can co-exist.

"The other events, despite offering good XP rates, are not popular."

I told you already I still find the non-combat ones like Surprise Seedings are still very popular, Besides, the non-special flash events can be soloed.

"Indeed they are. This is all the proof we need to say that single-player modes for minigames work."

This is the proof of D&D blew away old school minigames grinding rather. Solo D&D are designed with solo focused. No point to waste development time on old school minigames.

31-Oct-2023 17:41:38

Aug

2010

Qwis7

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Dilbert.
Why would it be a waste if you put some dev time into for example: conquest solo able?
If people enjoy it its never a waste.

Just because you dislike classic minigames does not mean we all dislike them.
So far luckily we also have the right to tell that many still enjoy them, but are just not able to play them for many reasons.

Fully support a cole keep going!

31-Oct-2023 18:03:21

Nov

2003

A Cole

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Dilbert2001 said :
@A Cole

"Aka natural successor by your definition."

Not exactly, as they can co-exist. So now you're saying minigames are not dead content and/or can be revived?

Dilbert2001 said :

"The other events, despite offering good XP rates, are not popular."

I told you already I still find the non-combat ones like Surprise Seedings are still very popular, Besides, the non-special flash events can be soloed. I've done many of these events myself, and I know that some are more popular than others. I've merely stated that most are not as popular as the special events, mostly because those special events have a high value reward.

It makes me wonder if people actually enjoy them, because I certainly don't feel a sense of accomplishment when I play them. Not even after receiving a Dark Core from a tree. Perhaps people are only there for the thrill of the chase, then annoyance at yet another failed event dragging us away from other content we'd rather be doing. That's how I feel most of the time, anyway.

Dilbert2001 said :

"Indeed they are. This is all the proof we need to say that single-player modes for minigames work."

This is the proof of D&D blew away old school minigames grinding rather. Solo D&D are designed with solo focused. No point to waste development time on old school minigames. So solo focused content works. Thanks for clearing that up for us.

By your very logic, antiquated minigames can have a breath of life once again.

~A~

31-Oct-2023 21:03:38

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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"So now you're saying minigames are not dead content and/or can be revived?"

You have to tell us what "dead" means. Old school minigames still exist, and in RS3's case, there are even more ways to find groups thanks to Spotlight. To many players they aren't "dead" otherwise there won't be thalers. If you think they are "dead", then it is only your perception, To me, old school minigames like BA are dead if you are looking to do just BA for whatever reason, however, the remastered old school minigames are certainly still alive in the form of Spotlight.

"So solo focused content works. Thanks for clearing that up for us."

Wrong! The kind of solo focused content that still works is the D&D category, not the old school grindfest where you have to keep doing them religiously for a long time to get currencies to buy a Torso or such.

01-Nov-2023 17:55:54

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