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Dilbert2001
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H 1 L D A said :
Finally, let's talk about the prices for these items. I'll be using street price here.

The Orange H'ween - which is a pure cosmetic item - is "affordable" at 110m right now.

The Pumpkin Beret override token - a cosmetic override only obtainable through Pumpkin Parties - is worth 410m.....while the event is still taking place.

The Ensouled Pumpkin Mask - an item that has considerable gameplay benefits for being a holiday item, particularly for those looking to get 120 Necromancy on a budget - is 1.1 BILLION GP, while the event is still ongoing, and while being offered as a Treasure Hunter reward as well.

Even the Soul Dive and Soul Surge abilities - which you can save up H'oddments for if you wanted to - are costing players 15 and 20 million coins a piece.


Do you know even free players in RS3 can tan hides and make like 7 mil gp/hr? 410 mil gp is just 60 hours of tanning hides for free players in RS3. It is hardly anything expensive.

24-Oct-2023 03:23:39

H 1 L D A
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I have
never
said it wasn't okay for RNG-based items of particular rarity to be in RS3 (remember, you have similar rough odds of spiking a Third Age Pl8 in RS3).....

However, it's not okay to take a widely celebrated holiday, and make the driving focus of the playerbase be to go after something RNG-based, within a time limit, or force them to fork over immense amounts of GP (or actual money for Bonds) due to lacking the luck and the event ends. You can ALWAYS do Clue Scrolls provided you meet the requirements for obtaining them. Don't have those requirements? That's not a big deal, just play the game. Want an Ensouled Pumpkin Mask but Halloween comes and goes and you don't have it after playing every day during the events duration? I don't know what to tell you, that's just unlucky.

You wanna tell Jagex the rarity is too high for Third Age? Make your own damn thread and stop comparing apples to oranges.
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24-Oct-2023 03:44:28

H 1 L D A
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When you're telling a free player to spend half a week tanning hides just to buy a purely cosmetic halloween item - you've lost the argument. I'll invite any other readers of this thread to back you up and say that your logic makes sense here.

Want a pumpkin beret? No life the game for three days, Free-players. Happy Halloween.
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24-Oct-2023 03:50:24

Mini JIT
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Dilbert2001 said :
"> Finally, Jagex is counting on the pressure of the above factors to get people to crack and open their wallets, so they can make a profit off of those with poor luck"


You just keep continuing to talk about OSRS. Only these OSRS events like DMM, Leagues, Boss Bash Raffle etc require OSRS players to open their wallets. In RS3, the rare Ensouled Pumpkin Mask can't be won with money because it is not a prize from TH. We have to smash pumpkins to find them and we can't buy them.


Wrong again because it is a prize on TH... Look up grim harvest.

24-Oct-2023 03:55:16

H 1 L D A
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I was gonna let that one go, because I know Dilbert probably looked at the 'probabilities' tab under the event and it wasn't listed there, Mini. As much as we fight and I get a kick out of proving him wrong - that's something that players would only know the first time they interact with Grim Harvest after the event starts - or clicked on Promo Prizes -instead- of Probabilities.

You are correct though - There is a .12% chance to spike the Ensouled Pumpkin Mask as a Grim Harvest bonus reward (meaning, you have to spend 10 keys just to roll the .12% chance. Yikes.)


And that point is relevant. Jagex not only wants players hunting the mask to buy keys, they want them to spend them in TENS in order to do so.
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24-Oct-2023 04:03:38

Mini JIT
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H 1 L D A said :
I was gonna let that one go, because I know Dilbert probably looked at the 'probabilities' tab under the event and it wasn't listed there, Mini. As much as we fight and I get a kick out of proving him wrong - that's something that players would only know the first time they interact with Grim Harvest after the event starts - or clicked on Promo Prizes -instead- of Probabilities.

You are correct though - There is a .12% chance to spike the Ensouled Pumpkin Mask as a Grim Harvest bonus reward (meaning, you have to spend 10 keys just to roll the .12% chance. Yikes.)


And that point is relevant. Jagex not only wants players hunting the mask to buy keys, they want them to spend them in TENS in order to do so.


Yeah, just saying I am an iron and still know it's also a TH item so was surprised he didn't. It's listed as 1/831 keys and very rare for irons from the pumpkin event.

24-Oct-2023 04:21:56

Gig elf
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Mini JIT said :

Yeah, just saying I am an iron and still know it's also a TH item so was surprised he didn't. It's listed as 1/831 keys and very rare for irons from the pumpkin event.


1/831 Grim harvest rolls. 12 keys for a grim harvest roll.

9972 keys for an ensouled mask.

24-Oct-2023 15:05:56

Dilbert2001
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Mini JIT said :
Dilbert2001 said :
"> Finally, Jagex is counting on the pressure of the above factors to get people to crack and open their wallets, so they can make a profit off of those with poor luck"


You just keep continuing to talk about OSRS. Only these OSRS events like DMM, Leagues, Boss Bash Raffle etc require OSRS players to open their wallets. In RS3, the rare Ensouled Pumpkin Mask can't be won with money because it is not a prize from TH. We have to smash pumpkins to find them and we can't buy them.


Wrong again because it is a prize on TH... Look up grim harvest.


It certainly isn't on the TH prize list. I don't know what you have seen. If you see it on the TH prize list with chance, can you please show us the screenshot?

24-Oct-2023 16:47:21

Mini JIT
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Dilbert2001 said :
Mini JIT said :
Dilbert2001 said :
"> Finally, Jagex is counting on the pressure of the above factors to get people to crack and open their wallets, so they can make a profit off of those with poor luck"


You just keep continuing to talk about OSRS. Only these OSRS events like DMM, Leagues, Boss Bash Raffle etc require OSRS players to open their wallets. In RS3, the rare Ensouled Pumpkin Mask can't be won with money because it is not a prize from TH. We have to smash pumpkins to find them and we can't buy them.


Wrong again because it is a prize on TH... Look up grim harvest.


It certainly isn't on the TH prize list. I don't know what you have seen. If you see it on the TH prize list with chance, can you please show us the screenshot?


Are you stupid or something, I already said I am an iron, and we don't get TH. Go goggle Grim harvest which is a TH event. Or look on the wiki for drop source.

24-Oct-2023 18:00:09

Dilbert2001
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Dilbert2001

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Mini JIT said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Mini JIT said :
Dilbert2001 said :
"> Finally, Jagex is counting on the pressure of the above factors to get people to crack and open their wallets, so they can make a profit off of those with poor luck"


You just keep continuing to talk about OSRS. Only these OSRS events like DMM, Leagues, Boss Bash Raffle etc require OSRS players to open their wallets. In RS3, the rare Ensouled Pumpkin Mask can't be won with money because it is not a prize from TH. We have to smash pumpkins to find them and we can't buy them.


Wrong again because it is a prize on TH... Look up grim harvest.


It certainly isn't on the TH prize list. I don't know what you have seen. If you see it on the TH prize list with chance, can you please show us the screenshot?


Are you stupid or something, I already said I am an iron, and we don't get TH. Go goggle Grim harvest which is a TH event. Or look on the wiki for drop source.


If you "don't get TH", then how can you tell us we who don't see Ensouled Mask on TH "wrong"? Google and whatever wiki can be wrong instead.

24-Oct-2023 18:11:46

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