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A  Cole
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Dilbert2001 said :
You don't run the business of Jagex. Whatever you consider "con's" aren't con's to all their games, and not just RS3. This is the pro to the game industry.

We have AFK timers getting increased several times since 2021 to all of RSC/RS2/RS3/OSRS and other new Jagex games too. We can AFK for 25 minutes in OSRS now too. Cons? 1. Reduced security - more chance of someone coming across your PC when you are actually away from your keyboard.

2. Increased server load.

3. Less chance of getting into the server you want, particularly popular ones at busy times.

4. Excessively promoting the AFK aspects, reducing the feeling of the MM in MMORPG.


Indeed, Jagex will have more information on this than I have. They just haven't proven that to me, and neither have you. You can keep saying "Jagex knows better", but in this case I'm still gobsmacked they've gone this way. I've seen no good reason for it from them. The only one you've been able to finally muster up is that is helps those with more than one session open.


~A~

04-Aug-2023 23:15:10

Dilbert2001
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^^
Again, these are all what you think "con's".

Security is always your own issue.

AFK won't increase server load. Logging in and out often do on the other hand.

Activities on high population servers load add more to the server load. Players want to be actively playing the game will most of the time find a low population world, not the other way. If you choose to be very active on W84 and such, you are just hurting yourself, not Jagex intended us to do.

Nobody is promoting excessive AFK in any of Jagex's games. Being AFK is just an option. Having bots reduce the feeling of "MM" in MMOROG, not humans.

04-Aug-2023 23:32:02

Bertel62
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A  Cole said :
Not a single skilling activity lasts effectively for longer than 5 minutes.
There are some. You can fill up your inventory with heated items to smith, and they can easily last for 10 minutes, even without ever going into the range where you have to reheat them.

An archeology excavation can take a very long time too.

But I do agree that the 10 minutes is useless for most things. Trees, fishing spots, mining rocks etc. don't last very long, so you have to be active. Even if a spot sometimes does last for a long time, it quickly fills up the inventory, and stops you anyway.

07-Aug-2023 23:55:10

Bertel62
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A  Cole said :
Also, if you're not actively clicking, are you playing the game or not?
How often would you have to click in order to "play the game actively"?

Clicking an oak tree auto chops for perhaps 30 seconds. Is that playing the game? What about en elder tree? That lasts for 5 minutes. Is that active play or AFK?

The game is not made so you have to constantly click on something. Many things run automatically for up to several minutes. I think it is hard to say what is AFK and what is active playing.

08-Aug-2023 00:19:29

Bertel62
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Dilbert2001 said :
Why can't Jagex's Runescape have Idle game features?
It does have idle game features. There are rested XP, alching machines and Michelania. These run when you are offline, over several days. You only have to log in once in a while to reactivate them.

08-Aug-2023 00:29:35

Bertel62
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Dilbert2001 said :
Why can't Jagex's Runescape have Idle game features?
It does have idle game features. There are rested XP, alching machines and Michelania. These run when you are offline, over several days. You only have to log in once in a while to reactivate them. I would also count daily treasure hunter keys as idle content.

08-Aug-2023 00:31:07 - Last edited on 08-Aug-2023 00:31:41 by Bertel62

Dilbert2001
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Bertel62 said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Why can't Jagex's Runescape have Idle game features?
It does have idle game features. There are rested XP, alching machines and Michelania. These run when you are offline, over several days. You only have to log in once in a while to reactivate them. I would also count daily treasure hunter keys as idle content.

Offline features don't mean idle. They are 2 separate categories in the video game industry.

08-Aug-2023 00:53:51

Bertel62
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Dilbert2001 said :
Offline features don't mean idle.
That is exactly what is means.

AFK means that the game is open and plays itself when you are not there.

Idle means that the game plays itself when it is closed down.

08-Aug-2023 11:27:56 - Last edited on 08-Aug-2023 11:31:08 by Bertel62

Dilbert2001
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Bertel62 said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Offline features don't mean idle.
That is exactly what is means.

AFK means that the game is open and plays itself when you are not there.

Idle means that the game plays itself when it is closed down.

There is more than that actually. A lot of online games have real time content like Managing Miscellania. Of course we can be AFK all the time but this it is real time feature and not AFK feature.

08-Aug-2023 15:09:07

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