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A  Cole
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A  Cole

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Dilbert2001 said :
Activities that require 4 seconds of actions don't seem to be affected with the AFK timer extension anyway. The problem is the 300 seconds ones. Humans have to pay close attention to when their 300 seconds batch complete and often get logged out now.

Don't you realize we have alternative places for those more active 4 seconds of actions players? Fort Forinthry and GE on more populated worlds for that reason? The same argument can be made for doing the activities you're talking about.

There is nothing unique about W84 that you can't get on other servers. W2, W99 and W100, amongst others, are just as good, if not better than W84.

So what's your problem with being lobbied if you can easily access these servers instead?


~A~

04-Aug-2023 20:34:47

Dilbert2001
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A  Cole said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Activities that require 4 seconds of actions don't seem to be affected with the AFK timer extension anyway. The problem is the 300 seconds ones. Humans have to pay close attention to when their 300 seconds batch complete and often get logged out now.

Don't you realize we have alternative places for those more active 4 seconds of actions players? Fort Forinthry and GE on more populated worlds for that reason? The same argument can be made for doing the activities you're talking about.

There is nothing unique about W84 that you can't get on other servers. W2, W99 and W100, amongst others, are just as good, if not better than W84.

So what's your problem with being lobbied if you can easily access these servers instead?


~A~

I used W84 just as an example. It doesn't have to be W84. It can be W2, W79, W70 or many other populated worlds that have waiting queues from time to time. Typically I only log on to W84 when I intended to do the 300 seconds batch. When I want to be active with 15 seconds batches, there are plenty of buff sharing worlds I go to.

You also don't seem to realize the build in world hopping spam prevention mechanism. Often when we are force logout due to inactivity, we get kicked to the login screen, not the lobby. Sometimes we even have to wait 30 seconds or longer or we get the "your character is not fully logged out" message.

04-Aug-2023 20:50:32

A  Cole
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Dilbert2001 said :
You also don't seem to realize the build in world hopping spam prevention mechanism. Often when we are force logout due to inactivity, we get kicked to the login screen, not the lobby. Sometimes we even have to wait 30 seconds or longer or we get the "your character is not fully logged out" message. I'm fully aware of the world hopping mechanisms.

Getting kicked to the login screen is not one of them when you stand idle for 10 minutes.

You only go to the login screen once you've been sat in the lobby for an hour, or there has been a connection issue to the server.

Besides, even if you get kicked to the login screen, it's only one additional click now with Jagex Accounts, so again, what is your problem with this?


~A~

04-Aug-2023 20:56:10

Dilbert2001
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A  Cole said :
Dilbert2001 said :
You also don't seem to realize the build in world hopping spam prevention mechanism. Often when we are force logout due to inactivity, we get kicked to the login screen, not the lobby. Sometimes we even have to wait 30 seconds or longer or we get the "your character is not fully logged out" message. I'm fully aware of the world hopping mechanisms.

Getting kicked to the login screen is not one of them when you stand idle for 10 minutes.

You only go to the login screen once you've been sat in the lobby for an hour, or there has been a connection issue to the server.

Besides, even if you get kicked to the login screen, it's only one additional click now with Jagex Accounts, so again, what is your problem with this?


~A~

Not true at all. I used W84 for an example. Often when you get kicked, you go to the login screen. I am sure plenty of players have encountered this issue on all Runescape franchise variants over the last 22 years.

No, not one click even with Jagex Accounts in plenty of occasions, especially when we are playing RS3 on a second screen.

04-Aug-2023 21:06:20

Kat Stryke

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We can't even access Solomon's Store now. Instead we get a logout alert telling us we cannot log out right now. We are advised to "leave the area and try again". I get this message no matter where I try. WTF? O_o

This logout timer update is a dumpster fire. I've been putting out fire with gasoline! ^_^

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04-Aug-2023 21:27:27

Dilbert2001
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Kat Stryke said :
We can't even access Solomon's Store now. Instead we get a logout alert telling us we cannot log out right now. We are advised to "leave the area and try again". I get this message no matter where I try. WTF? O_o

This logout timer update is a dumpster fire.

TYVM for further illustrating we don't want excessive login/logout in Jagex's Runescape Franchise games. The longer we humans can stay in the game, the better experience.

A lot of video games have a AFK timer of over 20 minutes for similar reason, and why not RS3?

04-Aug-2023 21:35:53 - Last edited on 04-Aug-2023 21:36:08 by Dilbert2001

A  Cole
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Dilbert2001 said :
Not true at all. I used W84 for an example. Often when you get kicked, you go to the login screen. I am sure plenty of players have encountered this issue on all Runescape franchise variants over the last 22 years.

No, not one click even with Jagex Accounts in plenty of occasions, especially when we are playing RS3 on a second screen. This sounds like an issue on your end.

I guess you've found your niche reason for a 10 minute log out timer.

It still doesn't sit right with me.


~A~

04-Aug-2023 21:47:49

Dilbert2001
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A  Cole said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Not true at all. I used W84 for an example. Often when you get kicked, you go to the login screen. I am sure plenty of players have encountered this issue on all Runescape franchise variants over the last 22 years.

No, not one click even with Jagex Accounts in plenty of occasions, especially when we are playing RS3 on a second screen. This sounds like an issue on your end.

I guess you've found your niche reason for a 10 minute log out timer.

It still doesn't sit right with me.


~A~

This sounds like you don't have an issue on your end, but it doesn't mean other players don't.

I am 100% a lot of players play RS3 on a second screen too. Whether it "sits right" with you or not won't make your niche reason for the RS3 team to ignore the second screen and AFK game markets.

04-Aug-2023 22:09:06

A  Cole
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Dilbert2001 said :
This sounds like you don't have an issue on your end, but it doesn't mean other players don't.

I am 100% a lot of players play RS3 on a second screen too. Whether it "sits right" with you or not won't make your niche reason for the RS3 team to ignore the second screen and AFK game markets. At least you've finally said something that makes sense now. I had no idea that having a second screen would do this.

You have finally answered my question and given a benefit to the extended log out timer.

Pro's: 1
Con's: 4

Just need three more reasons to catch up!


~A~

04-Aug-2023 23:02:17

Dilbert2001
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A  Cole said :
Dilbert2001 said :
This sounds like you don't have an issue on your end, but it doesn't mean other players don't.

I am 100% a lot of players play RS3 on a second screen too. Whether it "sits right" with you or not won't make your niche reason for the RS3 team to ignore the second screen and AFK game markets. At least you've finally said something that makes sense now. I had no idea that having a second screen would do this.

You have finally answered my question and given a benefit to the extended log out timer.

Pro's: 1
Con's: 4

Just need three more reasons to catch up!


~A~

You don't run the business of Jagex. Whatever you consider "con's" aren't con's to all their games, and not just RS3. This is the pro to the game industry.

We have AFK timers getting increased several times since 2021 to all of RSC/RS2/RS3/OSRS and other new Jagex games too. We can AFK for 25 minutes in OSRS now too. Cons?

04-Aug-2023 23:06:21 - Last edited on 04-Aug-2023 23:08:11 by Dilbert2001

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