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Khorne Dog
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I don't understand Jagex at all. They extend the logout timer but yet the game STILL randomly stops you from doing whatever you're doing sometimes. What is the point of extending the timer if the game is going to randomly stop us so we are just standing there with out thumb in our ass?!? Thanks for your time, I never seem to have enough of my own.

01-Aug-2023 22:39:53

A  Cole
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Also, if you're not actively clicking, are you playing the game or not?

The extended log out timer seems to have more negatives than positives. I have no idea why anybody wanted this, let alone why Jagex thought it was a good idea.


~A~

01-Aug-2023 23:04:02

Dilbert2001
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Also, if you're not actively clicking, are you playing the game or not?

The extended log out timer seems to have more negatives than positives. I have no idea why anybody wanted this, let alone why Jagex thought it was a good idea.


~A~


Longer AFK timer definitely favorites humans.

If Jagex didn't think it was a good idea, they would have banned the 25 minute AFK timer OSRS Runelite plugin long ago.

01-Aug-2023 23:55:52

Dilbert2001
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Longer AFK timer definitely favorites humans
In what way does it "favourites humans"?


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Numerous ways. Bots can stay online forever but humans have to click every few minutes to not get log out. In many cases, when we get log out, we have to wait in a queue to get back it, for instance in W84. It is very annoying.

02-Aug-2023 01:07:36

Tenebri
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Longer AFK timer definitely favorites humans
In what way does it "favourites humans"?


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Numerous ways. Bots can stay online forever but humans have to click every few minutes to not get log out. In many cases, when we get log out, we have to wait in a queue to get back it, for instance in W84. It is very annoying.


but if you arent clicking, then you are playing the game.

you arent doing anything anyway.

use aggro pot- 6 mins

it runs out

monsters now not attacking you

you have an aura on.

you dont auto log out. timer carries on cause you arent logged out.
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02-Aug-2023 08:12:48

Khorne Dog
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Well there is literally an achievement I am working on that is just you "resting". Jagex thought this was a cool idea so why CAN'T I "just stand there & rest" for 9 minutes and 59 seconds before something stops me? lol. Jagex makes zero sense. Thanks for your time, I never seem to have enough of my own.

02-Aug-2023 17:07:08

Dilbert2001
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"but if you arent clicking, then you are playing the game.

you arent doing anything anyway.

use aggro pot- 6 mins"


In 2023, we have idle games and offline games too. Even Jagex have their own Idle Adventure games, and they have already touted the offline training concept in their Runesape Remastered project. In 2001, AFK timer might be 30 seconds (or something low like that), but the general perception of the entire game industry is games aren't always meant to be played by clicking, clicking and clicking...

Actually plenty of games, even very old school ones like EVE have plenty of real time content. I don't think we aren't playing games when we manage our Miscellaneous Kingdom every month, or send out POP ships or feed our POF animal once a day or two.

We do have aggression potions, but unfortunately they don't work on skilling. Hence, Jagex has extended the size of some auto-making some skilling content, but we still get log out.

02-Aug-2023 17:28:18

A  Cole
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Not a single skilling activity lasts effectively for longer than 5 minutes.

If we have anything active, whether it be a potion, aura, DXP or any other type of bonus, these will continue to run down after the effective skilling time is over, until the point we get logged out to the lobby. We essentially lose 5 minutes of our timers each time this happens.

So now we've cleared up there is zero benefit to skillers, let's get onto your other "positive": "In many cases, when we get log out, we have to wait in a queue to get back it, for instance in W84. It is very annoying."

PAH!

If you're not active in W84, you are essentially wasting bandwidth on that server that other players could make use of. Now if every player was to stand around doing nothing for 10 minutes, it's going to make the matter of getting into W84 incredibly harder!

So now we have another major disadvantage to the extended log-out timer. What more is there?

Let's see.

Let's say I step away from my desk to grab a drink. Sometimes I may get distracted and will be away for a little while longer than usual. What's to stop someone else coming along and doing something on my account whilst I'm away? Yes this issue existed before, but an extended timer will give much more opportunity for this to happen. I can only hope that the bank pin is required immediately after a 10 minute log out!

So security is another negative.

And then there's the point already raised. If we're not actively partaking in the game, are we actually playing it at all?

A major reason why there are not as many new players coming in compared to years gone by is because when once there were players to talk to, now they are mostly AFK. This is an MMPORG. If we aren't doing the multiplayer part, even for a small amount of our playing time, then the game itself will suffer.

Finally we have server load. The longer we're in-game, the more cost there is to Jagex. If we're inactive, there's no benefit to either party.


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02-Aug-2023 18:46:28

Tenebri
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"but if you arent clicking, then you are playing the game.

you arent doing anything anyway.

use aggro pot- 6 mins"


In 2023, we have idle games and offline games too.t.


yeah we have idle games in 2023? so what. they have been around for a long time.


there are many different games out there yes.

im giving you an example on how this is not helpful for the regular player. aka potion runs out and aura timer carrying on when with loging out at 6 mins it would stop the aura.


all you have done here is explain idle games. fantastic... i dont know why you have done this? nothing you say here relates to what i said. are you just arguing for sake of arguing?

what would be helpful is listing places this will actually be helpful. especially as many activities stop after 6 mins.
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