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I think the removal of Old School RuneScape and RuneScape 3 should be shifted into the new game in development unless it changes into RuneScape 4 should only be kept called 'RuneScape' not no 2, no 3, not no 4 because it diverses into division amongst the players and not even classic. The game is overly divided and in competition with itself. Old School RuneScape is doing something right without EoC and should be removed into the future of the game of RuneScape 3 because thats what JaGex was doing right. If they looked at everything they are doing right players would enjoy the game.

And if players leave and don't like it then they shouldn't play at all because if the company focused on 1 game it could change for the better and for the future of RuneScape and the JaGex company. People that argue that MTX is viable when it became pay-to-win and pay-to-pay that I think that what is smart and viable that if you bought in-game items and boosts for thousands of dollars and only 1000 people bought it and making 11 million dollars rather than limiting what you can purchase from up to only spending 100-400 dollars and 50,000 people buy it then the company is making 20 million dollars aside from the merch store because it will be gaining popularity and making more a profit because the game is doing something right and more poeple would come because it's reasonable and affordable.

The community is negative over something that the company created and was doing right and is divided over what it did wrong. Looking at what Old School RuneScape and RuneScape 3 did right and implementing into one game with the removal of EoC would bring the player base to come to together and play one game because it's like having something more than one product and people don't get the full benefit of enjoying one product because it could be making more revenue with the product being kept under one name instead of it being divided and causing arguments over what's better.
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31-Aug-2023 22:28:52 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2023 22:30:33 by Z om B1 e

Dilbert2001
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Jagex can't just make RS3 and OSRS one single game. They definitely need MTX to survive so if there is only one Runescape it will absolutely be RS3. Not that OSRS can guarantee to survive over a longer period, but Jagex will only let it die naturally while milking everything they can in the process.

They are already making new Runescape franchise games, not in the MMORPG genre though. They will work well with RS3 as similar scenarios like WoW (MMORPG) with Diablo (ARPG), Overwatch (FPS), Hearthstone (CCG) are proven to work well in the long run. WoW is an MMORPG but not an abomination of Diablo et al so all the other Warcraft franchise games aren't competing with WoW. The same thing works nicely with RS3 as it is a de facto MMORPG, all new kids on the Runescape franchise will only supplement RS3 as long as they aren't typical MMORPGs.

They did talk about RS4 in the past, but now it is going to be just the current RS3 or "sort of almost RS4" as Mod Keeper called it. Whatever non-MMORPG features (survival, ARPG, etc) in the now defunct RS4 will probably be seen in the new Runescape franchise games while the MMORPG features will more than likely become new content in THIS remastered RS3.

31-Aug-2023 23:21:00 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2023 23:45:59 by Dilbert2001

Tranq
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I'd point out the fact that Runescape 3 is the evolution of Runescape. We tend to name things as players. Let's watch the evolution...

Runescape > Runescape (2) (some players didn't like it) > Runescape HD (high definition graphics were born) > Runescape (EOC) (many didn't like it threatening to leave to private servers) (finds an old full save copy of Runescape at the end of 2007, uses that but people got to start over). > (Evolution of combat and new graphics fully implemented) Dubbed Runescape 3.

So while it would be nice to bring the community back together... Both communities are way different, many that play Runescape 3 have the mentality play one, play the other, play both whatever floats your boat. There are still many that play old school that still have a bitter taste in their mouths when it comes to evolution of combat. I think had they rolled out revolution for the ability bar at the beginning of EOC for the non-button mashers that can still have the click and wait combat the community wouldn't have fractured.
When the day becomes the night and the sky becomes the sea, when the clock strikes heavy and there’s no time for tea; and in our darkest hour, before my final rhyme, she will come back home to Wonderland and turn back the hands of time.

31-Aug-2023 23:40:45

Dilbert2001
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RS3 and OSRS can't be just one game because they are too different. Jagex is always making changes to make the games better for themselves and the players though.

That said, we see Revolution and Legacy Modes in RS3 when they found out many players aren't totally into Full Manual EOC. On the OSRS side, Jagex are always finding new ways to monetize it outside bonds MTX because they know they can't support it for too long without more monetization as former OSRS Mod Mat K confessed. They are charging OSRS players for extra membership for many game modes like GIM. They are also into RWT with real money competitions, raffles, giveaways. More recently they even allow pay to win in DMM with gp swapping. Don't forget to buy some Nieve and Gnome Child plushies for only $29.99 each to support OSRS and their streamers.

The gap between RS3 and OSRS is getting narrower as old school players can play RS3 the old school style while OSRS players are getting monetized with sugar-coated in game purchases so Jagex can let that game hang on longer.

01-Sep-2023 02:08:23 - Last edited on 01-Sep-2023 02:37:50 by Dilbert2001

Dilbert2001
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If you are aware of big news from Reuters earlier, you should know they are "shifting" RS3 and OSRS into one new game, but be prepared to have many more new games in addition to OSRS and the other games they already own and are making.

"Potential buyers are likely to include private equity firms, which could use Jagex as a platform to buy a string of smaller companies within the sector, one source said.

The sale was earlier reported by the Financial Times."


So going forward, we will have RS3, the headliner bona fide MMORPG with 22 years old lore based episodic content, a Runescape Survival game and another established survival game SCUM, even more Jagex Partners games.

When they acquire more smaller companies we are likely going to see even more diversified games following the blueprint of Blizzard and Riot. Perhaps we will see new esports games that give real money prizes on seasons running every 2 or 3 months. We may see FPS or ARPG games that focus only on combat etc. We can also all kinds of new games with all kinds of OSRS game modes they have talked about but failed to follow up. OSRS will not be alone.

07-Sep-2023 16:54:19

Sc Jw
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Dilbert2001 said :
If you are aware of big news from Reuters earlier, you should know they are "shifting" RS3 and OSRS into one new game

Bull Crap. There is nothing in that article that even remotely implies such a thing.

I dunno if these numbers are true, but they do line up with the total I saw from a quick glance of the last published financial statement at Companies House. OSRS 64.1M, RS3 60.8M.

OSRS doesn't have MTX outside of bonds so that's all subscribers which greatly outnumber those of RS3 that does have MTX. Total subscription revenue was $88,940,273 and MTX was $34,557,610.

Why do you feel the need to constantly just make things up? Especially on such matters that are so easily verifiable with a simple search...

<sigh>

08-Sep-2023 22:09:40

Dilbert2001
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^^
I commented to OP"s suggestion, not that what you called <profanity redacted>. It is nothing happening but only OP's suggestion.

OP suggested removing RS3 and OSRS and all players go to their new game. My post was to tell Jagex is for sale and the actual sentiments suggested they are actually buying more game developers and diversify their investments even further, and not combining 2 games into one.

Why do you have to make thing up and don't read what OP is about and blindly changing the topic?

08-Sep-2023 22:50:16 - Last edited on 08-Sep-2023 22:52:21 by Dilbert2001

Sc Jw
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Dilbert2001 said :
^^
Why do you have to make thing up and don't read what OP is about and blindly changing the topic?

I didn't blindly change anything, and fun fact, you editing your post doesn't make the original go away, which is why I quoted it.

"If you are aware of big news from Reuters earlier, you should know they are "shifting" RS3 and OSRS into one new game"

You got caught spouting Bull Crap.

08-Sep-2023 22:58:20

Dilbert2001
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My post was clearly a reply to OP's suggestion (a hypothetical situation):

"I think the removal of Old School RuneScape and RuneScape 3 should be shifted into the new game in development unless it changes into RuneScape 4 should only be kept called 'RuneScape' not no 2, no 3, not no 4 because it diverses into division amongst the players and not even classic. "

08-Sep-2023 23:05:17

Sc Jw
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Dilbert2001 said :
My post was clearly a reply to OP's suggestion (a hypothetical situation):

"I think the removal of Old School RuneScape and RuneScape 3 should be shifted into the new game in development unless it changes into RuneScape 4 should only be kept called 'RuneScape' not no 2, no 3, not no 4 because it diverses into division amongst the players and not even classic. "


That isn't what you said before your edit, here, let me help you out: Dilbert2001 said :
If you are aware of big news from Reuters earlier, you should know they are "shifting" RS3 and OSRS into one new game

They did not say that, anywhere.

You lied.

08-Sep-2023 23:41:31

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