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Sc Jw
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Dilbert2001 said :
Who are the "overwhelming majority"? Please show us your source.
You must be really bad at math. How many players are online at a given time? How many are doing PvP activities? Most don't and never will. Most won't even boss.
Dilbert2001 said :
PvP nuke from orbit? How come it is still possible to pvp in WIldy
There were very few Pkers before the update. Mostly what you saw were griefers going after skillers and penguin hunters. I've done entire slayer tasks out there without seeing a one. Post update it is extremely rare now to see anybody skulled.

Hence, "vast majority".

Dilbert2001 said :
Clan Wars, Warbands, Sinkholes etc?
Most people don't consider "safe deaths" to be PvP, and you do can war bands "naked". But here again, how many are participating vs how many are online?

Castle and Soul Wars were a blast back in the day, but EOC destroyed PvP based activities. That's not just my opinion, you see it on every forum that talks about RS.

Dilbert2001 said :
How come we still see players killing others from the Wildy Death Notice Board?
There's still a few, and more power to them especially since they can no longer bother everyone else. Pkers have always been a small but very vocal (and obnoxious) minority. The s&%t talking in Edgeville bank used to be brutal.

I'll skip the OSRS comments, that's legacy combat (whoops).

08-Jun-2023 23:09:20

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Dilbert2001 said :
Not only are the old pvp minigames like Castle Wars and Soul Wars not nuked.
What are you smoking? I've had to help quite a few folks with the Castle Wars requirement for the Ardougne hard tasks because they couldn't find a game. I know of others that refuse to do it, even with help, because "PvP". Even after I explain you just have to bring the flag over once and fire a catapault. None of us will shoot at you.

And there are multiple Reddit threads about this.

Dilbert2001 said :
RS3 actually added many new ones like Stealing Creations, Cabbage Facepunch, Heist, Flash Powder Factory etc OSRS players have frequently asked to add similar content to their game.
Stealing Creation is 2008, Cabbage and Heist are 2014, Flash Powder is 2011. Ain't none of that "new". And once people get the outfits, they don't go back. Some just don't bother, or got theirs from Treasure Hunter.

I don't care what OSRS is asking for, especially since you went after me once for "changing the subject" when I referred to it concerning player counts. In that same thread you were caught multiple times just making things up so believability is a problem for me too.

Dilbert2001 said :
We forced open world pvp on players? Not RS3. RS3 didn't even force pvp on players in the Wildyness. Didn't I say OPT-IN?
It's opt-in now but it damn sure didn't use to be. Amusingly it's more dangerous to go after the lava maze penguin now with the north ripper demon than it was with pkers.

As to the rest, I'm out of room, and you need to outside and touch some grass.

08-Jun-2023 23:10:29

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Don't you realize the old minigames are on Spotlight now. Castle Wars and Soul Wars are very often played by lots of players when they are on Spotlight. They are definitely still going on, not nuked. And players play minigames on Spotlight because we get new and better rewards from Thalers that can be used to buy a whole array of items of our choices, including Clue Scrolls and xp lamps/stars. A lot of players still play them after they have obtained all the old minigame items.


"Stealing Creation is 2008, Cabbage and Heist are 2014, Flash Powder is 2011. Ain't none of that "new"."


Ain't Castle Wars new? Why do you want to talk about ancient pvp in 2002 but not the much newer ones getting added only to RS3? You don't care about these new minigamers but other players like the OSRS ones certainly do.

You just don't play enough or don't play RS3 penguins right then. If you go up from the east side of Wildy, you can spot the Lava Maze penguins without running into even one mob.

09-Jun-2023 00:04:19 - Last edited on 09-Jun-2023 00:04:58 by Dilbert2001

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Dilbert2001 said :
And players play minigames on Spotlight because we get new and better rewards from Thalers
Thalers are the primary reason why they are being played, not the minigame itself. Most are just there to farm points which is why it happens mostly when one is on spotlight.

Dilbert2001 said :

"Stealing Creation is 2008, Cabbage and Heist are 2014, Flash Powder is 2011. Ain't none of that "new"."


Ain't Castle Wars new?
No, it's the oldest of all of them, came out in 2004.

Dilbert2001 said :

Why do you want to talk about ancient pvp in 2002 but not the much newer ones getting added only to RS3?
What newer ones? Cabbage & Heist are the most recent you've listed, and they are coming up on a decade.

Dilbert2001 said :

You just don't play enough or don't play RS3 penguins right then. If you go up from the east side of Wildy, you can spot the Lava Maze penguins without running into even one mob.
You can't spy that penguin from outside if it's inside the fenced area. Fastest way overall is to fire up a lava titan and just blaze on in there. But I like Ripper Demons, so meh. Takes the wife and I about 25 minutes average to run penguins twice with a reset.

Once again, you know little of what you are talking about.

09-Jun-2023 15:41:00

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The Thaler system is the big addition to the reward system of the Spotlight format of minigames. They give all kinds of players the flexibility to obtain all kinds of items plus new ones. This is what modern players want, and should continue in similar manner in Runescape Remastered.

You forgot all the new school minigames in the forms of Flash Events, Demon Flash Mobs, player owned content, etc. Many of them came out recently. RSC minigames are dead in the water in 2023, even old school gamers like Asmongold consider them "cherry on the top" at best.

You certainly didn't play Penguins Hide & Seek, especially in the Lava Maze. We absolutely can spot penguins behind the fence, as usual. If you don't know how to spot Penguins Hide & Seek, there are some Penguins FC in the MInigame RSOF forums that should help and tell you how to spot penguins behind the fence in places like the Lava Maze. I can envision minigames FC remain an instrumental part of Runescape Remastered.

09-Jun-2023 15:57:24 - Last edited on 09-Jun-2023 16:08:11 by Dilbert2001

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Dilbert2001 said :

The Thaler system is the big addition to the reward system of the Spotlight format of minigames.
Thaler was released to standardize the "currency" used by all mini-games so as to get away from things like Castle Wars tickets that nobody wanted to do for their comp capes.

Dilbert2001 said :

You forgot all the new school minigames in the forms of Flash Events, Demon Flash Mobs, player owned content, etc. Many of them came out recently.
Neither of those are PvP, which is what this discussion is about. Quit trying to change the subject.

Dilbert2001 said :

You certainly didn't play Penguins Hide & Seek, especially in the Lava Maze.
I've been chasing penguins every week since they came out in fall of 2008. I also run 'em on our alt after the wife and I are done.

Dilbert2001 said :

We absolutely can spot penguins behind the fence, as usual. If you don't know how to spot Penguins Hide & Seek, there are some Penguins FC in the MInigame RSOF forums that should help and tell you how to spot penguins behind the fence in places like the Lava Maze. I can envision minigames FC remain an instrumental part of Runescape Remastered.
There are many places the penguin can get to that are not spyable from outside the Lava Maze. Been there, done that, and I'm in the World60Pengs chat every week.

How do you think I'm hitting all penguins _twice_ in an average of 25 minutes if I'm not any good at running them? Hell I've got a preset dedicated just for that.

Once again you are blathering about things you know very little about.

09-Jun-2023 22:20:35

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"Thaler was released to standardize the "currency" used by all mini-games so as to get away from things like Castle Wars tickets that nobody wanted to do for their comp capes."


Absolutely wrong! Minigames items can be obtained in other ways than playing the minigame and buying with Thalers. For instance, Castle War Tickets can be obtained from POF.

"Neither of those are PvP, which is what this discussion is about. Quit trying to change the subject."


Incredibly wrong again! PvP means player versus player. Anytime we have 2 or more players competing they are pvp activities.

"There are many places the penguin can get to that are not spyable from outside the Lava Maze. Been there, done that, and I'm in the World60Pengs chat every week."


Penguins roam around the maze. You can wait for them to come, or you can hop worlds easily too. If you are really impatient, you can also Wildy Sword teleport to herb patch and just hug the south fence to go west to get to the entrance of the maze without fighting a mob.

09-Jun-2023 22:27:29 - Last edited on 09-Jun-2023 22:34:56 by Dilbert2001

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Dilbert2001 said :

Absolutely wrong! Minigames items can be obtained in other ways than playing the minigame and buying with Thalers.
I will concede that CW was a somewhat bad example but my point stands. Thaler was released to standardize the currency between the minigames. If I want Void gear but don't like PC then I can play the other games and buy Void with Thaler.

I can do the same with Castle Wars too by buying armor then selling it to Lanthus for gold tickets. The fact that you can't see and/or understand that isn't my problem. Try the Wiki...

Dilbert2001 said :

Incredibly wrong again! PvP means player versus player. Anytime we have 2 or more players competing they are pvp activities.
Not just competing but trying to "kill" one another, which may or may not be a safe death. You said "Flash Events" and "Demon Flash Mobs", neither of those are PvP. If you search Wiki for "PvP" it'll give you the definition and what activities meet that. Neither of those are on it.

Dilbert2001 said :

Penguins roam around the maze. You can wait for them to come, or you can hop worlds easily too.
Or you can just charge on in there and get 'er done, which is much faster.

Dilbert2001 said :

If you are really impatient, you can also Wildy Sword teleport to herb patch and just hug the south fence to go west to get to the entrance of the maze without fighting a mob.
Or you could just use a Lava Titan and teleport right to the entrance of the maze. Heck you might even have one in the preset you use for running penguins.

You're the one that's a penguin noob, not me.

10-Jun-2023 02:58:46

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