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Phished said :
I've had COUNTLESS experiences with being banned from /r/runescape AND the discord over the most trivial small thing, allow me to name a few;

• Banned on /r/RuneScape for posting a picture of a list of bots at Luminite botting

You were banned on /r/runescape (for 7 days) for calling another user a string of insults I cannot quote here.

Looking through your account I see mostly worthless comments, some racism, transphobia, and other garbage.

Why would you make such a bullshit post? What's the aim here? Trying to convince RS players not to join Reddit? The 20 forum users who will read this? And you had to lie pretty substantially too. Pathetic.

See you not on Reddit ;) Join the RuneScape community on Reddit in
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19-Jan-2024 20:40:23

Barnabis
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In response to opening comments:

Firstly, I actually disapprove of the fact Jagex is shutting down the official forums instead of modernizing them. Here they are choosing the 'easy way out'. Though it is nice to give an opinion and not worried some f or j-mod will mute my account over it.

>"The "mods" over at /r/runescape weren't vetted, ....."

The biggest reason why players like myself left the official forums is we felt the same way about forum mods here. I still feel they power trip. Over on reddit I've gotten into plenty of debates with the mod 5-x specifically. That mod never abused their powers and deleted any of my posts. Same with a few more, but 5-x seems to be the most active and I actually think is a good person. It is ok to have difference of opinions.

There are formal channels to complain to 'big reddit' of improper modding to remove mods. Did you try that?

>banned on /r/RuneScape for posting a picture of a list of bots at Luminite botting....

This has been contentious. You are suppose to hide all user names. These typically still get shut down.

>Banned for telling someone to GTFO after they called me a racial slur

Did you appeal to "big reddit"? This would be a legit complaint, though I don't know the full contents of what you really said as I assume you are paraphrasing here.

I don't use discord, so can't refute any claims.

>Also have to complain regarding the gatekeeping ... your posts will be "held" until some ... "mod" ... approving it

I accused a J-mod for being lazy and got myself a warning from "big reddit". After that for a time my posts were 'gatekept' I'm assuming this has to do with warnings or bans that is standard procedure. After a few days that stopped happening to me.

>scummy_jagex_at_it_again_big_shocker/

No, this was locked due to duplication. It sounds toxic so not surprised. The comments were removed too. Jagex 2019 New Year Resolution... MTX our customers until RS3 SERVER SHUTDOWN PARTY!
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19-Jan-2024 21:39:39 - Last edited on 19-Jan-2024 21:40:44 by Barnabis

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Many players have come here to complain about the moderation on both Reddit and here on the RSOF by the players with more power, i.e. the
Moderators
. Personally, I have not seen much over-moderation here. If anything, I have seen under-moderation, but this is not the issue I have come here to discuss.

My main concern with Reddit is not with the official
Moderators
. It is more to do with
Mass Appeal
and
Popularity
.

I have seen posts that offer very little to discussion, such as memes, be hugely popular, whereas posts that bring up important discussion points be downvoted to oblivion because it had nothing to do with activities the masses like to do, such as PvM.

If I were to go to Reddit, and attempt to bring up my enjoyment of minigames and my ideas to help reinvigorate them, I would not get the fair engagement there as I would here. This, in turn, puts me off going back to Reddit.

On the contrary, there will be another player who will post something that goes with the popular opinion. Other players will then upvote this players post, vindicating their thoughts, and spurring them to remain in that community.

Thus now we have an echo chamber of the same popular opinions being spread and justified amongst the same few players. These are now the players Jagex listen to because the statistics show that this is what most players want.

In actual fact, most players are no longer on the platform because of this mass movement against them.

Statistics is a powerful tool when used correctly
. My fear is that Jagex is using statistics incorrectly to justify changes to the game - and now to the website. Echo chambers are a dangerous breeding ground for popular but terrible ideas. Jagex need to be careful with where they get their player opinions from going forward, as this vital, qualitative tool they have right now in the RSOF will not be there to get them out of trouble in the future.


~A~

20-Jan-2024 00:18:55

Bruce Waayne
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Follow said :
Phished said :
I've had COUNTLESS experiences with being banned from /r/runescape AND the discord over the most trivial small thing, allow me to name a few;

• Banned on /r/RuneScape for posting a picture of a list of bots at Luminite botting

You were banned on /r/runescape (for 7 days) for calling another user a string of insults I cannot quote here.

Looking through your account I see mostly worthless comments, some racism, transphobia, and other garbage.

Why would you make such a bullshit post? What's the aim here? Trying to convince RS players not to join Reddit? The 20 forum users who will read this? And you had to lie pretty substantially too. Pathetic.

See you not on Reddit ;)

This is the typical SJW snowflake you will see on reddit crying over every little thing hiding behind that report button and spamming it for a "safe space" grow up.
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20-Jan-2024 02:15:36 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2024 02:16:01 by Bruce Waayne

Mel 624
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Good grief why are there so many bigots outing themselves as if the forums support that kind of thing? You do know that's not ok here either right? Hate speech is a reportable offense in game.

It's unfortunate that OP was apparently lying. Real cases of mods misusing their power do happen and lying about it just makes it harder to address them. I do still have concerns about the problems that can come from Jagex becoming entirely reliant on "official" platforms they don't actually moderate themselves. Anyone can make their own sub communities but official ones are meant to be run by the actual people that make and maintain the game. Otherwise it's just a glorified fan sub community elevated over all others and given disproportionate attention and favouritism.

Like Cole said, this just creates echo chambers that skew what kind of feedback they actually see and take into consideration. This has tangibly contributed to some of the poor decisions Jagex has made that alienated players not represented in those groups. Without the forums, this'll just get worse. Plenty of players are sick of all the bossing and PvM focus. Lots of people have recently voiced how alienated they feel by Jagex's decisions and how they're being driven away from the game. Forcing players away until all you're left with are a fraction of what once was isn't a good way to run a game.

They really are misusing stats. In hindsight I suspect the community participation part of the surveys was used to claim most players were on social media but I considered myself an active part of the community as a regular forum poster. A lot of their recent poor decisions seem to be based off of bad stats too, like death costs and hero pass. How to block a forum user
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20-Jan-2024 04:05:42

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This person was banned across multiple different platforms, which have completely separate moderation teams, and no one had the idea that maybe something more is going on here?

OP, your comments were vile. It's good you're not on those platforms anymore.

20-Jan-2024 14:17:20

Bruce Waayne
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Ecruteak said :
^ It's not 2016 anymore mate, no one uses "SJW snowflake" as an insult. Also being transphobic is absolutely a reason to be banned. Good riddance from the OP.

SJW is more of a fad now than ever. This generation only cares about seeking attention, then if you dont agree with them (Bud light situation) for example, your a "phobic / racist / biggot" even though these people knew they arnt they have common sense. They label you a phobic so they can attention seek and play the victim, then they turn around and do stuff WAAY worse like harass people cyber bully and defend the lowest scummy people because (they cant control it) these people only exist on the internet thats why social media is a joke its just a bunch of immature attention seekers hiding behind the report button and labeling you something thats not even real.

Bad news, in the real world people are not going to agree with you, and you dont have a report button, in fact no one is going to care if your upset about what someone said, go outside, get a job, and grow up.
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20-Jan-2024 16:22:53

Mel 624
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Gee, how dare people take issue with and deplatform people who advocate for discrimination and mistreatment of marginalized groups. Those attitudes hurt and outright kill people. For the record, discrimination is legally actionable as well. You can get sued in court for it. How to block a forum user
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Death And Taxes: An Analysis
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Petition: leave forums open!

Don't let Jagex forget the forums.

20-Jan-2024 19:44:29

Tomato 56789
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A few things are being thrown around here.

I don't know the OP or their history. However - it seems in recent years those who don't lean left-wing (with the exception of literal terrorists for some odd reason) are censored. I'm not talking about blatant racism and transphobia as much as such labels being assigned to things they are not. A James Franco meme (first time) got me banned from a platform once as the mods interpreted it as a suicide threat (meme posted in reply to something had had virtually nothing to do with any debatable issue, I think it was a car problem or something). I was called racist before for enforcing a workplace policy (as I always did) which in one instance applied to an individual who was simply of a different race. I could list more examples but my comment will likely already be misconstrued.

There's a multitude of valid examples of tame views being censored in excess on other platforms. Forums many of those subjects aren't even likely to come up in the first place, and I haven't witnessed moderator bias here in a very long time (the guilty parties aren't even mods anymore lol)
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20-Jan-2024 22:42:50 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2024 23:26:10 by Tomato 56789

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