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Grumbly, complainy stuffs, that's been sorted.


Yes, I agree that population in the FC is a key thing for making it obvious that there are others playing GOP; but that can be achieved with a/few rank/s(invisible included), who'd/who're there to answer questions and help out, along with the newcommers who stay.

It's the latter that we lost, due to the unfriendly atmosphere, caused by bad language (in general), and unkindness towards newcommers; not everyone was doing that, some were just in there and being indifferent (though that was usually including being rude, just in conversation with eachother). Given that it is the Help chat.. indifference isn't really on.. and if they don't wish to be helping out, then why were they in there D:?

I know it was never meant to conflict with Gioppi, for experienced players, and they were deliberately sepperate, so that the attitudes stayed sepperate; if attitudes cahnged, then fine, but they haven't (and were actually pushing the newcommers out of the chat [they've nearly all stopped staying in the FC, whenever they're online]), which is just wrong.

Populationis better provided by those the FC is aimed at, rather than those it's not; and as they seem to be mutually exclusive, at the moment, then it's obvious which our 1st priority should be.

It would be great if they all wished to help, and were, but otherwise, it's better provided by having more people who are at the same stages (newer players), who can then learn together, and have visible steps on their progression ladders, if they wished for them, and not feel oppressed by too many 'pros', even if they were all helpfull.

Some peoples' version of 'helping' is grinding the newcommers nose in, about how new they are; you can point out hte complexities of Gop, and the fun to be had learning it, without doing that; there certainly doesn't need to be the egotripping that's done by a few..

14-Nov-2013 03:55:47 - Last edited on 14-Nov-2013 23:53:40 by Yusou Bhoroi

14-Nov-2013 17:45:58

20-Nov-2013 00:39:06 - Last edited on 20-Nov-2013 00:39:37 by Timome

That's great! Though.... lol D: it would be while Tommi was away.. (Tommi had asked him to come, a few times ).

I have been on a bit, but I have pm off... we've started having problems with certain people turning up on the world I'm on, repetetively, and causing disturbance.. (you'll probably know who I mean, as they've had their pm on..), so I've not been in the chat much, either; not that I've been on much, anyway.


It's good to hear that they were joining in, though I worry about what happened Not sure some people would have remained as polite as you or I; it's really sad that Tommi couldn't have been there, as he's been the one doing the poking for this..

I don't think there will be a return visit, any time soon, as he did similar things for Soul Wars, on prompting, which was a one off (so far).

Any more details ? and how are you?


I did see that people were in 66 for 4-5 hours O-o (I was in the lobby for quite some time, while having food and working). Mostly Emub, in that he was there the longest, I think.

I'm not sure what the problem is, atm, but something odd is going on that I'm not privy to, as a lot of the Vt' and the Sv' ranks are being very silent, nowhere near as talkative as normal, might just be that a lot are planning to do the Knurj' this year.. but I would have thought they'd say O-o Maybe it's just the problems with afformentioned annoying people.

I'll be working from home on Friday and Sat, so should have some time free to be on more, I don't think Tommi will be back by then.


I did mean to say something, but I've completely forgotten O-o take care!


Edit:
Puu came O-o Never met him, but some of the ones who came to Gop with us did.



Staying up to finish this work off, then will probably have most of tomorrow night free!

21-Nov-2013 01:36:19 - Last edited on 23-Nov-2013 05:36:31 by Yusou Bhoroi

30-Nov-2013 06:29:44

Hmm... was hoping to catch you today.. not seen you for well over a week now.. (not seen other you for ages, so hurry up getting back and I hope Art*high is alright now!).

Take care Timo, and I should be back on um... Saturday morning, Idk when, it might even be the tail end of Friday night.. depending on when I go to sleep, and if I've done unpacking/sorting beforehand (in Japan for 3 days, though will only see what I can from a car window, on the way to studio from Airport, and then the same back, the studio won't even have windows... not sure if wherever I will be dossing-down in breaks will.. though knowing how it usually goes, it might end up with forgoing sleep.. so, all in all, I'm not sure I'll actually see anything more than the last two times >****; even had blacked out windows for the 2nd one, as it was one of their silly cars for transporting people who like privicy... so boring those people It will be interesting work though, and possibility of some extra things Idk about, if needed for something other than the direct collaboration, by the studio..) anyways, I should get some sleep.. take care and I hope to see you (both) at the weekend !


If this slot is free (router and Comp ID, not sure how many are linked to router, I've only used 2, I think), then others should have no excuse for not helping out >:}.

02-Dec-2013 14:33:59

08-Dec-2013 14:31:17

Yea, I realised about Pip, he's been being really nice and helpful.


Ha, well you'd better make sure every time they do a GWD event, to delete every mention that you need to bring food or armour or weapons.. because the things about Gop mechanics are just that: Mechanics...

They are hard fact about what happens when you do 'x', and are unchangable, irrefutable and just... Gop.. therefore, saying how to get orb from A to B, using a method which works with the mechanics, rather than one which doesn't and ends up with the orb being in an unreachable place, is just basic help; they have no right to delete that, if they allow gear guidance for GWD events (which they do).

You should even be allowed to put the whole lot of Gop mechanics and coording, soloing (todploord, even) on there.. because they allow the minutiae of tactics to be posted about other events, so they are hypocritical and persecuting you (you can quote this, and have my citation as the last Armadyl event). It is not on, and they shouldn't be doing it; if the rules apply to you, with that interpretation, then they should be applied to others, in the same way.

What they are doing to you, is essentially a tier 1 action, in comparison to them allowing others to go to tier 4 out of 5, without even a comment (other than possitive encouragement).


Sources: back catalogue of events, especially the GWD ones, but some others,
too.. look at the talk pages, revisions and edits, and that's my case in one.

Edit: maybe interfaces is a bit far, though saying big helps


I hardly helped Femalenight at all D: .. I only did about 3 games with her (Vio was there, as he'd brought her; I think they'd met training somewhere on P2P, so it was nice that he brought her to us ) and I'd not slept for 76 hours, so was worse than useless, lol, I think we didn't get anything above 40 at all, in all 3, but I made sure there were people to carry on helping after I left, and for the other two who were there at the time.

08-Dec-2013 16:35:38 - Last edited on 08-Dec-2013 17:05:58 by Yusou Bhoroi

-waves to Meng- Stop looking at the thread and commenting on site, just post here!

and does that comment mean that Tommi will be back in 2 days? or was there something else implied? (yes, I'm asking here to make you post here >:} )


Edit: Inb4 some wierd alt I didn't know you had posts.

Edit2: Never mind, I just checked the list and I knew of all of them; but you have no reason not to post now!

13-Dec-2013 21:30:13 - Last edited on 13-Dec-2013 21:36:53 by Yusou Bhoroi

23-Dec-2013 03:59:41