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Geneawac
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I also agree that momentum is not really for dungeoneering. I think it was meant for things like slayer or training a combat stat, not dungeoneering. Also, dungeoneering is a really good way to get used to the action bar. Things die much faster with abilities. We can't go back to old Rs, sadly, so it is time to learn the new method and move on. Once you master it in dungeoneering you will be much better prepared to fight big bosses outside of dungeons. Besides, you have to use abilities to be able to trigger momentum. Why not just keep going and using them?

29-Nov-2012 16:11:19 - Last edited on 29-Nov-2012 17:19:10 by Geneawac

Buffdude1100

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The people using momentum are the same people who don't have a large enough apm ability (or simply don't care to do so) to just use basics, so for them, momentum has a higher damage output rate than does not using it. While I'm all for disallowing momentum [in dg], you have to look at it from both sides.

30-Nov-2012 00:30:01

Bonz
Nov Member 2005

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Hi all,
It would appear that I've been removed from the fc. Although I'm not the most active I still Dunge with you guys at least 2 - 3 times a week.
I had a week outta the fc and then find I've been removed from the fc.
I would really appreciate it if you could let me back in the fc.
If there is a minimum number of floors needed per week, please let me know and I'll make sure I achieve it.
Thanks,
Bonz

30-Nov-2012 21:55:36

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CHANGES TO THE KEYER RANK

We feel that over time the keyer rank has become more and more 'crowded'. A lot of people still hold this rank out of legacy, some have gotten it while the expectations were different, and with the Evolution of Combat update a lot has changed for us too. We feel like the keyer rank has deviated from the original intentions: 1) to recognise exceptional keyers and 2) to be part of the evaluation process of new members.

On both points the keyer rank has lost value. The amount of people holding the rank is simply too large to mark all as being among 'the best' of keyers, and trial floors are too often simply passed without much attention or feedback. We want the role to become much more like a teacher's, where ranked keyers share their knowledge both to new members and our veterans alike, to increase the overall quality of our floors.

Finally we also realize that the generals are not necessarily the best keyers themselves, and thus not always in a valid position to evaluate applicants for the keyer rank.

With all this in mind, we have decided to implement the following changes:
- Everyone currently holding this rank is stripped of it.
- We have decided on three players to first hold this rank in its new capacity.
- There is no more application for the keyer rank.
- To become a ranked keyer, one will need a majority of approvals from currently ranked keyers. PM a general to approve a person.
- The generals collectively will be allowed to veto potential new keyers, but they are not allowed to appoint any. An exception will be made for the initial three and if the total number of active keyers falls below three. The generals reserve the right to restructure the keyer rank at any time.
- The keyers are strongly advised to be selective in expanding the rank by keeping in mind that quality should prevail over quantity, and by basing their decisions on multiple floors.
- There are new expectations, outlined below.

01-Dec-2012 20:58:33

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First of all, people holding this rank need to show supreme proficiency in Dungeoneering. This is demonstrated through keying floors smoothly and efficiently. It is up to the new ranked keyers to decide what qualities produce these results. We do want to stress that individual absolute floor times are irrelevant, but a noticeable trend of comparison does hold value.

Next, the keyers must be willing to serve as teachers or mentors to help others in the chat. It is essential that those whom we consider our best are sharing their knowledge in a constructive way. It is irrelevant whether this happens through advice in pm, forum posts, discussions in the friends chat, organised keying workshops, etc.

Finally, the ranked keyers are expected to be the host for one of the four trial floors for new members. In this specific trial floor, they are to watch very carefully for the new member's skill in Dungeoneering. This includes watching binds, rings, the new member's whereabouts throughout the floor, his/her communication and participation, etc. If the keyer feels that any part of a new member's performance in a trial floor is not of sufficient quality, the keyer must not pass the trial floor. This may sound harsh, but it provides a much more effective safety net for quality than before. While new members who have failed a trial floor can simply re-take it, trial floors are never to be passed just because someone still needs one or because it feels harsh to fail them more than once. Keyers are expected not to betray our quality safety net. Remember that you are choosing your future teammates and friends. Do so wisely.

The starting three keyers will be:
- whynotnow
- dmw da zohan
- lucas

We congratulate them and expect them to live up to the expectations. It is now in their hands to select others who will do the same :)

01-Dec-2012 20:59:21

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The new Trialer rank

We think that people can be good judges of others and good leaders without necessarily being ranked keyers. That is why we have made this new trialer rank which will be the bronze star. The goal for this rank is to have a group of leaders who help the group as a whole improve, exactly like the new keyer rank. These people need to be experienced and excel in our style and have an attitude of a leader.

Starting trialers:
- X C I X
- Finiteness
- ABlueYak
- Kigabite
- Rowun
- BuyOdinBeer
- Padoka
- Herr Rob
- chronic pyre

01-Dec-2012 21:00:06 - Last edited on 01-Dec-2012 21:34:39 by [#7JAVF3WB2]

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