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Dster0
Jul Member 2005

Dster0

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Now to talk about changes for EOC. We will most likely end up redoing the ranking system and changing some requirements. We have some thoughts about what changes we will make but they aren't concrete yet. This is a good time for everyone to have a say in our future style. It's not a good time to say "oh your suggestion stinks it's going to make us go back to the dark ages." We aren't going to let people dung with very inefficient binds or styles, but we need to figure out what the efficient ones are first. We need to have a few weeks of playing around. The floors will not be of the highest quality while people are learning and experimenting with the new system, so have patience.
I remember last year at this time we were having a very heated argument about hoods. Both sides were insulting to the other side and attacked individuals. Let's show that we learned something and not do that again with EOC.

20-Nov-2012 15:18:59

Buffdude1100

Buffdude1100

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Things you should bind:
Primal 2h = Primal Spear>Prom 2h as main melee wep, still undecided as to which is best, needs more testing.
Emp cat staff or celcat staff. Seriously, bind one of these.
Hex or sag shortbow.
Sag arrows.
Platebody.
Blood Necklace
Sag body
Sag chaps
Note: All of that assumes 138 cb or at least 99 in the respective skill.
Surviving is really, really, really, really easy in EoC. I cannot stress that enough. Boots and gauntlets don't really help anymore and legs are just overkill for defense. Aside from ragers, miner role can't really do much aside from making a platebody.
Killing things is so fast now, assuming you use the abilities and not just autoattack, that gds are pretty much enter doors and clearing a room will take no more than ten to fifteen seconds. Congrats, kabde is even closer to rushing than ever******;
Have these five abilities on all of your action bars:
Freedom
Surge
Make Gatestone
Teleport to Gatestone
Group Gatestone Teleport
I posted a page or two back about which other abilities you should look into using. Again, nothing is concrete just yet, testing is still being done by researchers (hi Thai <3 ilu).

20-Nov-2012 16:11:23 - Last edited on 20-Nov-2012 16:11:38 by Buffdude1100

Zohan
Aug Member 2010

Zohan

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"- People running around in full robes without even a melee weapon, maging everything including rangers because they didn't have a different style. As if that wasn't bad enough, some had an arrows bind so the crafted all the runes..."
It was the last week of Dging as we knew it, and everyone had a million new binds to play around with. Also for the record, you rarely splash on rangers with full magic robes. :P
"- People running around in ridiculous amounts of armor, including even a kiteshield, while completely neglecting offense."
Again, last week, million new binds. People just having some fun. I didn't see this before the binds / eoc update

"- People in skiller roles leaving all items, even door pots at base instead of bringing the stuff to gt."
It's not that hard to correct them. :P
"- People looking down on others when they open their gated door, or do their path, or anticipate gt movement, etc."
While it's annoying for me as a fighter that some people don't "allow" pathing, I understand where they're coming from as a keyer. I know with some teams I prefer it if people don't path, while with others I don't really mind.
It's when the keyers run half the map to gate your path that things get annoying. :P
"- People backing out of floors for weird or no reasons."
Haven't noticed this one.

"The point is, I'm getting fed up with the constant trend of this fc dropping in quality."
I haven't really noticed this. People have told me floor times used to average 45 mins, then improved to 30s. Now we're averaging 25. If the quality was dropping wouldn't the floor times be going up, not down? :P
Liza
"A few of us that have recently joined have remarked on the fact that certain people in the clan always DG together in the same group and it feels like High School again trying to break into a clique at a new school."
I felt like this too when I first joined, but you're always welcome to join in on floors, ask for floors or even host your own. :)

20-Nov-2012 17:34:02

Grotius
Aug Member 2023

Grotius

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I'm talking to the gens and together we decided to bring it back to private conversations, those tend to be more productive :p
So I'm not going to reply to Dster's or Zohan's post here. One clarification I want to make is that I was not just referring to the last week, but rather the last few weeks or more likely even months.
If anyone wants to reply or just talk about it more feel free to pm me, it's always on :p

20-Nov-2012 18:43:41 - Last edited on 20-Nov-2012 18:46:53 by Grotius

Jigabachi
Dec Member 2007

Jigabachi

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surgebox supplies unlimited air runes and is held in the ammo slot so can be used with staves, but it appears that you still cant make elemental staves unless i am missing something. But it is still good for supplying base mage damage with a fletched staff so it is still useful for mages below level 99.

20-Nov-2012 22:36:37

Sereg

Sereg

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Logged in to try it today, for the first time in 153 days. Feels the same as it always did, with the addition of minor special attacks nearly constantly, and way too many hit points from armor.
Feels like I'm alot squishier then ever before, though - level 20(ish) hill giants were destroying me through my f2p rune armor. I had to use that 40% heal ult to sustain. I suppose soul split would make things a bit easier... but then again, if it was only hill giants doing that much damage to me, I have to imagine a real opponent would be alot worse.
Oddly, I've been hearing that dungeoneering is alot easier and safer now. So maybe there's a huge difference between f2p and p2p gear?
Also, are catalytic runes entirely worthless now? Or have I missed something?
Carve our dreams in sanguine stone/Strength corporeal and of mind
Walls of our flesh, bricks of our bone/Deadly intent to defend our kind

21-Nov-2012 03:42:44

Lil Mila

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I am so totally not getting it. (dungeon and slayer) Mental block of "it's too hard" and avoiding the tutorial "it's too long" are not helpful. So I will definitely be a slow learner.
But I hit 4399 on the boss (solo dungeon) and I gotta say that was nice - enough to make me look forward to coming back and trying it again.
Thanks for all the info on the last few pages, I will slowly work through it.
But I want a chaotic and I still don't know what to buy. I have 350k tokens. Any advice? I only do slayer in reg game.

21-Nov-2012 13:31:46

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