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Evertim

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Congrats blue :) I've had some pretty fun and memorable floors with you!
As for the current discussion, I can definitely appreciate where everyone is coming from, although I'm only going to comment on an idea I liked.
Ranks should be revised, at least in title - I've seen quite a few people not form floors because they felt like that's what Keyer ranks were supposed to do. While not the root of the problem, it certainly doesn't help that the rank is called Keyer. It's easy to see why newer members are hesitant to key floors.
Instead they should be called something like Mentors, or whatever you feel like really lol, but not Keyers.
I also feel like they should have the responsibility of helping those who want to improve, hence why I thought the name Mentor was apt. Something as simple as shadowing a player while they key a floor and offering simple constructive criticism could really help more people get involved with forming and keying floors. I feel as if newcomers would be more inclined to take the wheel if they knew someone was there to help them along the way.
It's not something I can see happening terribly often but there are some people who would probably be willing to help out, including me. Perhaps just every so often offering to mentor someone for a floor or two in the FC, and responding to anyone who requests for it.

Idk, what do you guys think of that?

08-Aug-2012 11:33:00

Lux in Nocte

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"Ranks should be revised, at least in title - I've seen quite a few people not form floors because they felt like that's what Keyer ranks were supposed to do. While not the root of the problem, it certainly doesn't help that the rank is called Keyer. It's easy to see why newer members are hesitant to key floors."
I support this; 'Keyer' is an outdated term. Personally, I was thinking about Leader, but thinking about it Tim's suggestion of something like Mentor sounds really good.

08-Aug-2012 12:17:18

Dster0
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Dster0

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I had an idea for ranks that keeps it easy to maintain like now, but seems slightly better (to me at least :P ).
gold: general - only given to inactive people of course ;) silver: leader - someone who is mature, excellent at our style, a role model, does trial floors, and takes a leadership position when it comes to helping others
bronze: keyer - keys regularly and well and does trial floors
3b - can mine and farm
2b - can mine
1b - can farm
:): newb - includes people grandfathered into the new skilling requirements who have still somehow managed not to train their skills over the last year (only 4 people)
Reason for removing the "can open all doors rank": Doesn't seem all that relevant since like half the fc has it. Someone can always open the door :P .
Reason for the leader rank: We have some keyers who can key very well but lead in other ways very poorly, and we have some people who don't key but are great role models. It'd be good to separate the ability to key well and the ability to be an excellent person.
Reason for removing the "veteran" rank: We really only made this rank because someone cried very loudly. I think it'd be better served to distinguish between miners and farmers as was originally intended.
Tell me what you think!

08-Aug-2012 14:53:36

Grotius
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Grotius

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Support for the system setup there Dster, although I feel that (like Evertim said) "keyer" is an outdated term and somewhat counterproductive to some of the issues that are being dealt with. Perhaps something like "floor leader" would be more appropriate for bronze star, with something like "mentor" for the silver star.

08-Aug-2012 18:13:32

Sn0
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Sn0

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First of all thank you to all that are invloved in this discussion and keeping it cival and appropriate! It makes me happy to have been a general when I see, dispite all our differences on many subjects, there are people that are genuinely concerned about the well being of our group!
Next, IF and when we do change rankings of players please make sure to explain in depth on this thread, our recruitment thread and also in game the reasons for changes. I do not want us to create un-necessary turmoil when people are getting ranked different things (it may not seem like a huge deal but some people are offended to be de-ranked)...
I like the proposed changes and hope that it will lead to a smoother experience for all!
I also think that if these changes are made and we create a leadership tier system, it could lead to possibly opening the FC to all. The mentors and maybe even floor leaders should be in those positions b/c they are capable of making sound judgement calls and know how this FC operates. They should be able to solve problems that arise in the FC in the absence of all the generals...
Finally, if this is implemented with more responsibilitys, maybe the mentor position should be a voted upon position in which members of the FC have a say who does or does not become a mentor. There by limiting the number of mentors just as generals. Not sure how this could be done fairly within the limitations of RS but just kicking out an idea...
Happy Dung'ing to all! :)

08-Aug-2012 19:02:17

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