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hi im pokey
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hi im pokey

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I want to kick everyone, permanently. But that's just me.

In truth though, if we wiped the fl only maybe 50 active dungeoneers at most would reapply to get back in the fc. The other 150 are either old 120 or joined but never dg'd with us.

06-Aug-2012 05:39:34

Mizuki Usami

Mizuki Usami

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Name: L ucas McBone
Time Zone: i don't know
Brain-eating level: over 9000!
Bone-picking level: 99
Bone-crafting level:99
Brain-collecting level: 99
Blood-mixing level:99
I have read the rare drop policy and understand that failure to comply will result in a permanent life in hell?! : yes
How did you find us/who recommended you?: found a letter on the corpse of my last victim!
Any comments?: can't wait to be part of Jiga's army!

06-Aug-2012 05:39:46

Applejuiceaj
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Applejuiceaj

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Quote Divided: "Do you guys think we are being too [strict] about the thing you have to add to your app to get accepted? I'm just curious."
No, I don't think that's the case at all. Ultimately we want players who have truly read the entire thread. Sure, there will still be those that quickly skim the thread, find the phrase, and post it, but at the same time it truly gets them to search the thread instead of find the template and post it. Heck, if you really wanted to get even more strict you could post the "Who gets the hex" question after each app with a different scenario, but then again that might get a tad annoying. :P Would ensure people read the drop policy though.
Quote Pokey: "The fc is becoming more social and rarely floors are formed. It really is ridiculous that our limit is always at 200 but at peak we only have 3 floors in at one time. "
I think its related partially to an old issue we discussed on the last thread - people love going on floors, but don't want to host/key. A minute ago in FC a floor was hosted, and 4 people joined it almost instantaneously. A second floor was hosted a minute later and didn't fill right away. Chances are I probably would have ended up going on it however I'm about to fall asleep while writing this post and I think sleep/irl is prob more important than a dungeon, no matter what time it is. :P
There's nothing wrong IMO with a FC being social though - after all, that's what we are, a social group of friends that dungeoneers together for fun. We're fine to chat while in floors, so I don't see why we wouldn't be able to chat while not in floors. I personally wouldn't want to *only* join the fc when I was going to dungeoneer, although I do tend to do that usually as it seems I'm always wanted somewhere else due to miscellaneous reasons most can guess.

06-Aug-2012 06:33:04

Applejuiceaj
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Applejuiceaj

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Quote Pokey: "In truth though, if we wiped the fl only maybe 50 active dungeoneers at most would reapply to get back in the fc."
I'll be honest - as much as I hate to say it, this almost sounds as if it would be true. I'm not sure how the current inactivity sweeps are done (I think someone said that they're a 2 week thing, but not sure) however I think the main thing is that while we're a group of friends as I mentioned above, we also one that theoretically likes to train the dungeoneering skill. With all of the interest we've been getting when applications seem to be open, it sort of makes sense to remove those who are only around once in a blue moon and when they are around they tend to just sit in the fc and idle.
Like I said, I haven't been around long enough to know how things go behind the scenes so I'm sure there are things that happen to address this issue which I'm completely unaware of, but at the same time ultimately we want a group of active dungeoneerers, and from what I can tell I'll guess there are a good 1/3rd of members that currently hold a spot on the friends list that may or may not actually be active in the dungeoneering community anymore who I'm sure would be mostly ok with giving up their spot in the fc to allow someone else the opportunity to dungeon with us (knowing of course that if they ever did rejoin the would be welcome to have their spot back).
Phew, hope that made some sense, this is what I get for writing my "essay style posts" at 1:30am, other than with a different topic - dungeoneering and fc's instead of account security.

06-Aug-2012 06:33:22

Buffdude1100

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My turn! :D
So yeah, as Apple said, the apps definitely aren't too strict. We don't want people who haven't read the thread in its entirety to be in our group. Remember that one guy who applied to fc (before the "thing" you know) who had no idea it was even kill-all-but-deadend? "u guys this isnt gd"
We don't want people like that. They need to know how to do the roles they're capable of filling.
Now onto the issue of inactive people.
Yes, *at least* half the fl is inactive. They do *maybe* one dungeon a week or two, sometimes less. Hell, even some of the generals rarely do floors.
I've done more dungeons since I got 200m than at least half the fl has. Isn't that a little silly? I don't even get xp anymore, yet I do more dungeons than many people in fc. Why are those people still here?
Yes, this chat is a social Dungeoneering chat. Keyword? Dungeoneering. If you want a social chat, find another clan. This fc was founded on the fact that we would do kabde dungeons with skilling. Lately, that has changed. A lot of people just sit in fc, on the fl, never dunging. Why are you taking up a space on an fl that you have no business being on?
This is primarily a Dungeoneeing fc. We do dungeons because we find them fun, hence the name "dg4fun." Yes, some of us have different ideas of fun. Some of you like to go slowly, others, like myself, like to go more quickly and more efficiently. Both types are welcome, as long as they listen to the keyer and gate doors.
Best solution right now?
Do as Pokey suggested. Wipe the fl clean. Everyone who cares about being in fc will reapply. I guarantee only 50-60 people will reapply, then we can have a much larger fc with more dungeons going.
Afaik, the inactive period to be removed from the fl is two weeks. That's quite a long time, especially since being removed can be avoided by doing a single dungeon within these two weeks.
Move it down to one week and make sure all new applicants are competent and know how to dung.

06-Aug-2012 06:51:11

Lux in Nocte

Lux in Nocte

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While I do think we could do with a few more floors a times, you have to consider people do have stuff to do besides RS, not to mention things in RS besides Dung. We got more skills than that after all :p
Moreover, some don't even feel like Dung sometimes; I went through many times of not wanting to dung at all 'cos I was just without motivation.
Some just don't have the time/drive to do Dung like others do, Buff. It'd be unfair to force people to dung more. Even if you're doing way more than 1 floor/week, it still sucks the fun out of things when you are required to do things, just to be considered part of an amazing group of people (that I have loved dunging with for so long).
Not to mention, the people I do see in the chat, do actually dung. If you don't see people dung, do consider they could be part of a different time zone than yours. If you're talking about me, though :P fair enough :) it's something I considered, but some people won't let me go! (not pointing fingers :D )

06-Aug-2012 11:41:11

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