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I Find your responses diverting & avoiding, rather than countering. Any capitals will be used for emphasis or direction, not raising my voice.

Why do you introduce joining another clan?

Are you saying this process only adds a minute to those who want to leave a clan & immediately join another clans seconds later, therefore this process is ok?

Joining another clan isn't relevant to this issue, you're diverting.
The proposed idea creates unnecessary problems.
It's like sending in a spider to catch a fly.

Here's some of the obvious problems & extra work the proposed idea introduces, rather than simply taking care of the issue it's intended to.

You have someone bossing, there is an issue in chat & they want to leave their clan, but not their instance.

They leave their clan.

They cannot, they have 3 options.
1. Leave their instance (not ideal).
2. Perhaps to ask please kick me to the people they might be having a disagreement with (an unkind position forced on them).
3. Being unable to leave, & wanting to be kicked, they are forced to play up if they don't like either of the above 2 options, becoming coarse disruptive in chat.


The issue of a few people accidentally leaving clans isn't being addressed, it's introducing an entirely new & longer, more complicated (whether or not you like to claim otherwise) process, to something that should be simple, be able to be done from anywhere, not just south of Falador's south wall on the west side.

You're needlessly complicating the matter for every single person trying to legitimately leave their clan, because of a few that can't or don't take the time to read what they are doing.
You're not addressing the problem, you're hampering the many because of a few.

Another obvious negative is that this doesn't produce any goodwill towards clans.



How do you think this is gonna look to the masses?

I'm going to give you a 1 question survey, purely just for you, Ignore List.
& it's mulitple choice.
A or B.

How do think this update will be viewed by the majority of the hundreds & thousands of Runescape members?

They will accept that there must have been so many people accidentally leaving clans, that this update was necessary, & introduced as simply as possible without adversely effecting those who can read.
They will view this as a measure of Clan Leaders trying to exert & extend their control over their members & make it more difficult for them to leave a clan, unintentional or not.



This update would not in any way be a clan improvement, & would not increase the goodwill we are (or should be) fighting for.
I feel like you can't see the forest for the trees.
& that goes to anyone who sees this proposed idea as a positive step for clans.

The issue is some people are leaving their clan accidentally.

The issue is not that leaving clans should be a more complicated process & only be able to be done from a certain point on the map of Gielinor after speaking to a certain person going through more dialogue & confirming 36 times just to be certain not 1 single person can ever leave their clan accidentally regardless of the effect on everyone else.

Now every time I criticise, I offer another option.





People accidentally leaving their clan because there is a leave clan button close to a leave clan chat button, & overlapping a leave group button.

(& I can't bold, highlight, underline, emphasize that word enough) remove the leave clan button that is being accidentally used by a few.
Add a worded option accessed via the cog, as suggested in my previous post.

I'm yet to hear why the proposed idea directly addresses the issue better than this.
This way doesn't introduce all the extra mess along with what should be a simple change.

You didn't address anything you just quoted.
You completely avoided the fact that the proposed solution isn't directly addressing the issue it's intending to.
It's going in a big wide arc, & stopping to see the sights along the way.
No mention of force in what you quoted, which I mentioned once & addressed previously.

Again you divert by introducing information that isn't relevant.

The system of walking to places exists also.

Should we introduce a system of speaking to a mage to prevent any accidental teleportations, because "talking to him and saying "yes I want to teleport" - are you sure? "yes" - Done isn't long or hard"?
It makes as much sense as your argument.
It's not about long or hard, is it?
It's about necessity.

The proposed idea is in no way shape or form necessary to prevent someone accidentally leaving their clan.
But what it does do, is CERTAINLY make it harder for everyone else who can follow the simple steps.