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Shamk
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I'd support with or without the teleport.

Personally, I say without the teleport just so that it's extra hard for clan hoppers and people with fairweather loyalties
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23-Sep-2017 09:39:06

CuddleBucket

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Dreamie said :
Accidental leave strikes again..numero cinco from an admin+ rank ;-; This time a key..Hope this can be implemented very soon :x
The solution to people accidentally doing things is to teleport them somewhere else?

This is very peculiar error protection.

I would have thought if we're resorting to this, we've probably missed something further up the line.
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29-Sep-2017 10:45:46

CuddleBucket

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Can we still kick people if they aren't in clan camp?

I'm really surprised a Jagex Moderator can't see this has the potential to cause more problems than it fixes.

For example if people want to leave a clan & are in the middle of something & don't want to go to clan camp, you're tying their hands, & forcing ours.

The reasoning for implementing this just baffles me.

If there is a problem with people accidentally leaving clans, investigate why, change how it is done compared to the thing the person is intending to do (obviously changing the icon & position wasn't enough).

You don't handcuff people, & say you can now only leave clans under these conditions.

I would suggest removing the leave clan button entirely from where it is, & creating a worded option, "Do you wish to leave your clan permanently?" accessed via the cog.

Rather than say "ok now you have to go here, talk to this person, say yes 3 times, click your heels together & wish upon a star".

This whole thread & the support for it feels like the twilight zone.


If people don't want to be in my clan, I don't want them there.
Let them go.


If people are leaving accidentally, THEN FIX THAT ISSUE, rather than changing the way (& POSITION ON THE GIELINOR MAP) that people can leave from.


Some have raised the issue on fairweather loyalty.
THIS DOES NOT SOLVE THAT, but that is a very legitimate issue, & an area we are being let down by the development team. There are lots of ways to encourage loyalty without in any way dictating to anyone.


I feel like this development is time that could have been spent on something that makes sense.
I mean you could introduce a loyalty level, & it levels exponentially like skills, everyone starts at 0, goes up to 9 or whatever, with different perks, be they cosmetic, effects at citadel, whatever, if you need ideas we can help you there.


BUT THIS WHOLE THREAD LOOKS PRETTY & SOLVES NOTHING.
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29-Sep-2017 11:00:26

J4ron
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CuddleBucket said :
I would suggest removing the leave clan button entirely from where it is, & creating a worded option, "Do you wish to leave your clan permanently?" accessed via the cog.
This actually makes some sense. how about keep the button, but when you click it, have a message come up that says 'you can leave your clan in the clan settings' and then when in there, have all your confirmations and shiz.
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29-Sep-2017 11:40:38

Iron Faery
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Can you believe, I almost left my clan accidentially 3 days ago.

I found myself staring at the message asking if I want to leave my clan that one of the deputy owners gets promoted to leader...

Btw, I wish this dialogue made leader pick the next leader instead of some other more random choice because some clans have many deputy owners and some longest served ranks can be inactive or some alphabetically first chosen would not fit best.

I was like: What did I just click?

I agree with leaving at clan camp but make teleport there time consuming, just enough that it's not abused for tele only.

29-Sep-2017 15:39:56

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CuddleBucket said :
Can we still kick people if they aren't in clan camp?


Yes

CuddleBucket said :
For example if people want to leave a clan & are in the middle of something & don't want to go to clan camp, you're tying their hands, & forcing ours.


In order to leave you're clan you can't be in combat and assuming you were going to join another clan either you need to go to the other person or they come to you, so I don't understand where you are coming from. Going to the clan camp takes all of 10 seconds and then you just talk to the scribe to leave.

I did raise this issue about someone having to go to clan camp myself with Mod Shauny but his response did make sense and was something on the line of "If you really wanted to leave your clan then going to the camp wouldn't be a problem given there will also be a teleport with it

CuddleBucket said :
If there is a problem with people accidentally leaving clans, investigate why, change how it is done compared to the thing the person is intending to do (obviously changing the icon & position wasn't enough).

You don't handcuff people, & say you can now only leave clans under these conditions.


I'm still struggling with the forcing aspect - can you elaborate on it? There is a teleport and everything and it solves the issue of people accidentally leaving and if someone was adamant they wanted to leave I don't see the problem with it taking 10 seconds longer

CuddleBucket said :
Rather than say "ok now you have to go here, talk to this person, say yes 3 times, click your heels together & wish upon a star".


This system of talking to the scribe to leave a clan already exists and going and talking to him and saying "yes I want to leave my clan" - are you sure? "yes" - Done isn't long or hard
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