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Tigergal44

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Have just lost 2 clan members to a clan that ranks their members by how many recruits they drag in.

As it is a PvM clan and they left under the guise of needing a specialist clan. Extremely amusing - as soon as their 7 day cool down was up, and they were in the new clan - they were guesting in our clan (their original one) 100% of the time they are on. And it is us that fields all their questions, helps with stuff, greets them - in fact they treat us like they still belong in the Clan.

No skin of my nose, I am not desperate for members and they can guest if they like but I confess to snapping when they asked for Bossing partners and Boss advice - that is allegedly what their new Clan is for :D

15-Dec-2015 00:15:46

Esploratore
Apr Member 2006

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I didn't realize until this evening that three of those responding to my posts are from the same community. You have quite the representation here on CLF.

I respect your viewpoints and realize what I called "aggressive" might have just been "persistent" recruiting. Our member is terrific and I can see why your clan members tried to get them to join. Hopefully you can also appreciate why I will do what I can to keep them with us.

15-Dec-2015 04:42:34

Chunksofplum
Jan Member 2010

Chunksofplum

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Esploratore said :
I didn't realize until this evening that three of those responding to my posts are from the same community. You have quite the representation here on CLF.

I respect your viewpoints and realize what I called "aggressive" might have just been "persistent" recruiting. Our member is terrific and I can see why your clan members tried to get them to join. Hopefully you can also appreciate why I will do what I can to keep them with us.


We are looking after 1100 people over 3 clans its not just 2 people running the clans if we could have all our deputies here we would

I appreciate why you want to keep them, but i would also like to add, if its causing friction to both clans perhaps you ask them not to guest in our clan, as i certainly don't mind they want to join in our cc but if you feel upset with it let them know, ultimately, if someone wants to leave they certainly can, it works with us, we have had members come and go, specifically as described above to go to PVM or warbands specific clans, people play the game in their own way as i described in my 2 part post, you cannot blame a clan for your member leaving if they did, its the players decision they are certainly not hijacked and forced to guest :)

Our community is built on a freedom to do as you wish (within jagex rules and being respectful) and we certainly do not want other clans feeling intimidated by us, we are 3 clans in their own right, we just all use the same ranking system and fly the same banner (it also means events have great turn outs) but it does come with its own restrictions, specifically with the multiple cc and guesting restrictions, we wanted to offer something that we don't think other clans do, which is the multi clan format over 3 clans and we enjoy the challenges that brings

If you do however feel you want to discuss the certain member in question you are free to guest in the cc or my PM is always on so you can discuss

15-Dec-2015 11:20:37

Chunksofplum
Jan Member 2010

Chunksofplum

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Tigergal44 said :
Have just lost 2 clan members to a clan that ranks their members by how many recruits they drag in.

As it is a PvM clan and they left under the guise of needing a specialist clan. Extremely amusing - as soon as their 7 day cool down was up, and they were in the new clan - they were guesting in our clan (their original one) 100% of the time they are on. And it is us that fields all their questions, helps with stuff, greets them - in fact they treat us like they still belong in the Clan.

No skin of my nose, I am not desperate for members and they can guest if they like but I confess to snapping when they asked for Bossing partners and Boss advice - that is allegedly what their new Clan is for :D



They will most probably be back if you would let them

You find the best part of the clan is the people in it and you guys sound very helpful :)

15-Dec-2015 11:22:21

Salcos

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It still seems to me as if one person owning multiple clans with over 1000 people, is only doing so (whether or not they realize it) to just be a big clan with a lot of people. They aren't really doing it for any benefit other than to have a lot of accounts in a clan they own for the sake of collecting them, and gaining prestige through it. It also gives them a way to get their ideas upvoted on runelabs.

Owner-Hey guys i suggested this on runelabs go approve it
Clan members-Okay!
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15-Dec-2015 18:03:35

Chunksofplum
Jan Member 2010

Chunksofplum

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Salcos said :
It still seems to me as if one person owning multiple clans with over 1000 people, is only doing so (whether or not they realize it) to just be a big clan with a lot of people. They aren't really doing it for any benefit other than to have a lot of accounts in a clan they own for the sake of collecting them, and gaining prestige through it. It also gives them a way to get their ideas upvoted on runelabs.

Owner-Hey guys i suggested this on runelabs go approve it
Clan members-Okay!


Just as much point as a social clan just on a bigger scale, a collective of people to chat, if you dont agree then you don't agree with social clans on a whole?

EDIT

to answer the runelabs thing, i personally dont think people abuse that but also implying the clan is a large hivemind that cant think independently?

i personally have never posted in runelabs

but its no more influential than 3 allied clans upvoting if it where to theoretically happen

But can i ask you what is the benefit of having a clan with 20 people? does it matter?

15-Dec-2015 18:40:28 - Last edited on 15-Dec-2015 18:45:57 by Chunksofplum

Agita Sage
Dec Member 2007

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Salcos said :
It still seems to me as if one person owning multiple clans with over 1000 people, is only doing so (whether or not they realize it) to just be a big clan with a lot of people. They aren't really doing it for any benefit other than to have a lot of accounts in a clan they own for the sake of collecting them, and gaining prestige through it. It also gives them a way to get their ideas upvoted on runelabs.

Owner-Hey guys i suggested this on runelabs go approve it
Clan members-Okay!



I wish, I'd love my Pest King Tower Defence idea to come to life ;)
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15-Dec-2015 18:43:42

Tribelewits

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Salcos said :
It still seems to me as if one person owning multiple clans with over 1000 people, is only doing so (whether or not they realize it) to just be a big clan with a lot of people. They aren't really doing it for any benefit other than to have a lot of accounts in a clan they own for the sake of collecting them, and gaining prestige through it. It also gives them a way to get their ideas upvoted on runelabs.

Owner-Hey guys i suggested this on runelabs go approve it
Clan members-Okay!


Really?
I challenge you sir, to find me 1 runelabs idea posted by one of our clan owners, that might suggest that what you are saying there is even remotely close to what you are suggesting there.

Clearly, you have no clue what's going on between the idea of this multiclanning, nor do you seem interested in listening / want to know about the how's an why's. Which is explained by some in this thread.

Leaves me thinking, this is just a rant as seen in this quoted post, disguised as an open question as seen in the first post??

You disagree? fine. Bottomline stays the same tho. Its not against the rules, live and let live.

We'll just carry on, doing as we feel that serves our community unlike the suggestions of personal benefits, some seem to think we have.

We are just a bunch of people that think its awesome that are having a great team who set a challenge to make this work, we feel like we are succeeding doing this.
I don't get how us having fun doing what we do, makes you start waving with rules that don't exist.
What's next? Those who have the max cashstack, which can't go higher due to technical limitations should stop making cash? starting to buy broad arrowheads because of the limited cash stack should be forbidden?? I know, a bit far fetched, but not too far if you start thinking about it.

Anyway, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Imo, we are doing great and not harming anyone.
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15-Dec-2015 19:37:52

Salcos

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Tribelewits said :
Salcos said :
It still seems to me as if one person owning multiple clans with over 1000 people, is only doing so (whether or not they realize it) to just be a big clan with a lot of people. They aren't really doing it for any benefit other than to have a lot of accounts in a clan they own for the sake of collecting them, and gaining prestige through it. It also gives them a way to get their ideas upvoted on runelabs.

Owner-Hey guys i suggested this on runelabs go approve it
Clan members-Okay!


Really?
I challenge you sir, to find me 1 runelabs idea posted by one of our clan owners, that might suggest that what you are saying there is even remotely close to what you are suggesting there.


Also, I am not making up rules.

By clan owners, you mean the one person who owns all three of your clans?
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15-Dec-2015 20:54:34 - Last edited on 15-Dec-2015 20:55:48 by Salcos

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