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Apr

2006

Esploratore

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KitKat said :
Some clans base rank ups on how many people someone can recruit. Maybe this is the case and the Clan Leaders aren't aware of how aggressive their clan mates are being?

Good point, Snowflakey.

I just checked and they do indeed give points for recruiting. Perhaps it would be helpful if their leadership would emphasize trying to recruit from the clan-less pool rather than those already in a clan.

That would be the nice thing to do, considering they already have approximately 1200 in their community.

14-Dec-2015 00:23:35

Mod Maz

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Unfortunately we're limited by the amount of script we can run, and in some situations it's already caused problems having 500 in a clan (see the rewrite of the clan list due to the mute feature being added).

Currently, having more people in a clan would cause more scripts to break and have to be rewritten.

The limit itself is engine side, and I can't comment on what that effects as I don't get to see that code. Mod Maz
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14-Dec-2015 09:25:36

Mar

2018

Scret

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Mod Maz said :
Unfortunately we're limited by the amount of script we can run, and in some situations it's already caused problems having 500 in a clan (see the rewrite of the clan list due to the mute feature being added).

Currently, having more people in a clan would cause more scripts to break and have to be rewritten.

The limit itself is engine side, and I can't comment on what that effects as I don't get to see that code.

Did you ever consider actually lowering it?

I know that extreme difficulties this would cause but hypothetically and out of interest what personally would be an easier limit to handle?

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14-Dec-2015 14:02:54

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2018

Scret

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Esploratore said :
KitKat said :
Some clans base rank ups on how many people someone can recruit. Maybe this is the case and the Clan Leaders aren't aware of how aggressive their clan mates are being?

Good point, Snowflakey.

I just checked and they do indeed give points for recruiting. Perhaps it would be helpful if their leadership would emphasize trying to recruit from the clan-less pool rather than those already in a clan.

That would be the nice thing to do, considering they already have approximately 1200 in their community.

I agree its poor form and can get a bit annoying but at the end of it all you gotta ask yourself how loyal that member is if they are leaving under whatever the circumstance might be.

I know of a certain clan who would pay a lot of money for the higher xp earners of certain ranked clans around them to join them.

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14-Dec-2015 14:15:43 - Last edited on 14-Dec-2015 14:18:49 by Scret

Tribelewits

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Our clans ranking is based on a very simple basic idea.

You don't HAVE to do anything (apart from being p2p) however whatever you do for and with the clan wil earn you points towards rankings.

There's a wide variety of things our clannies can do to earn their community ranks. This goes from simply placing their vex and wearing the clancape, to making guides on our forum, host community events etc... Recruiting new members is only one of the many ways people can earn points.
Surely, you can understand that rewarding points for everything but not for recruiting people would be a bit idiotic. Since recruits / fresh members are the life blood that keeps our community going, renewing, fresh, on our feet, and its out of this pool we eventually find the people who are interested to help run the community.

Our members are not sent out to try and target clans, its even preferable that they aren't in a clan, so they can join faster.

However if they are in a clan, there's not really a reason why the one trying to recruit can not try to tell about our clan. I wouldn't, however if one of our clannies is trying to recruit both clan and clanless people, i don't think they are actually doing something wrong.
At that point, it all comes down to, how happy your clannie is in your clan, and how loyal they are.
We, just like any other clan, have also people leaving to join other clans, that's just how it works. Proud Co-Owner of the Wolf
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14-Dec-2015 16:20:53 - Last edited on 14-Dec-2015 17:35:14 by Tribelewits

Apr

2006

Esploratore

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Scret said :
Esploratore said :
KitKat said :
Some clans base rank ups on how many people someone can recruit. Maybe this is the case and the Clan Leaders aren't aware of how aggressive their clan mates are being?

Good point, Snowflakey.

I just checked and they do indeed give points for recruiting. Perhaps it would be helpful if their leadership would emphasize trying to recruit from the clan-less pool rather than those already in a clan.

That would be the nice thing to do, considering they already have approximately 1200 in their community.

I agree its poor form and can get a bit annoying but at the end of it all you gotta ask yourself how loyal that member is if they are leaving under whatever the circumstance might be.

I know of a certain clan who would pay a lot of money for the higher xp earners of certain ranked clans around them to join them.

The member is loyal and is staying in our clan. But they have felt a certain amount of stress due to the pressure they've been placed under. It's not a good situation for several reasons. That's why I brought it up.

14-Dec-2015 18:26:42

Dec

2007

Agita Sage

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Esploratore said :
Scret said :
Esploratore said :
KitKat said :
Some clans base rank ups on how many people someone can recruit. Maybe this is the case and the Clan Leaders aren't aware of how aggressive their clan mates are being?

Good point, Snowflakey.

I just checked and they do indeed give points for recruiting. Perhaps it would be helpful if their leadership would emphasize trying to recruit from the clan-less pool rather than those already in a clan.

That would be the nice thing to do, considering they already have approximately 1200 in their community.

I agree its poor form and can get a bit annoying but at the end of it all you gotta ask yourself how loyal that member is if they are leaving under whatever the circumstance might be.

I know of a certain clan who would pay a lot of money for the higher xp earners of certain ranked clans around them to join them.

The member is loyal and is staying in our clan. But they have felt a certain amount of stress due to the pressure they've been placed under. It's not a good situation for several reasons. That's why I brought it up.

I now know you are talking about our community and not really putting it into the best light, using terms like 'aggressive recruiting'.

I don't want to stray off topic too much, but I need to defend how our community operates. Our Recruiters do not target members in other Clans, far from it, as members without Clans are far easier to Recruit.

Your member has been attending our Events and guesting in our CC, which they are more than welcome to do, as is everyone else.
There has never, ever been any pressure to join; they are free to use our community just as our own members are. Proud Owner of the
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14-Dec-2015 18:52:52

Jan

2010

Chunksofplum

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Part 1

I've stayed out of this conversation since the beginning as I'm from one of those large multi clans and I don't want to seem defensive with the whole thing because I feel its counterproductive, but the conversation seems to have veered from why is there a member cap to why are their clans with more than or exactly 500 members and why is it wrong etc.

Mod Maz has already answered it's a code thing so I realize why there is a cap and to be honest it's a reasonable thing to do and a reasonable size of members

I do however think, the whole heart of clans is getting together to do things your love, some clans have 26 members who only want to PVM together and it goes strong, they don't care for citadel so all the clan is to them is a platform to stay they are united, and that's awesome, i don't question what they do, it's the way they choose to play the game

Other clans have restrictions for entering like for instance 1mil xp a month and 2000 total minimum, again I see why they do this to be on the leader boards and i don't question it, I'm not an xp person so i know that clan isn't for me and i move on, someone will like it

Then there are larger multi clans like mine, it had humble beginnings like most clans and grew as it doesn't discriminate it has a maxed citadel and consistently staying around 480 members, we had admins who where contributing to growing the clan and are offered the chance to lead in a new clan that follows the same I think fair rank systems (that are consistently being evolved with suggestions) now, I know this isn't for everyone, however, we have a multitude of members from all over the world and the cc is active pretty much 24/7 if you want to boss there will be 5 others that might join you, we offer low level and high level events and really strive and enjoy the challenge of a multi clan community.

14-Dec-2015 20:02:35

Jan

2010

Chunksofplum

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Part 2
We really are a community within the community of Runescape, we offer events to the clan on a almost daily basis and anyone is free to join with no need to join the clan and if one clan chat is quiet or too busy you can guest in the other

We rank based on being active but not XP gains and offer points to those who recruit, host events and cap in the citadel, this seems to be effective as we have had 3 spin off clans use these systems in their own clan, one of which will be in the CLF soon as they are growing strong

Really what it's down to is how people want to play their game, take Pokémon for example, some people get 6 Pokémon get them to level 60 and that their team for the rest of the game, some people collect all of the Pokémon never to use half of them and some are a mix of both, it's not wrong it's just a preference

Now onto the member cap again, i personally would love it to be more, i remember being scared at first of the thought of being in a cc filled with 500 people all talking at once, but the most i have seen online at one time is roughly 100 in 1 clan, not everyone speaks so it's not as daunting as you would think, sometimes it's just fine to sit back and watch, but its deff a nice feeling to know all these people are united and look out for the well being of one community

on a side note and i don't want to go into it too much as its been touched on above, the member being "aggressively recruited" has never voiced they feel this way and whenever they have said they are loyal to their clan the clan has been very respectful and actually very humbled by this but it seems the clan chat in their clan can get quiet and some mini games that require 10 people minimum may not be doable in their clan so we are offering them the chance to join in "for free" so on occasion I would assume people may ask them to join

Anyway that's my very long to part speech that may have turned rant-ish :S sorry lol

14-Dec-2015 20:02:53 - Last edited on 14-Dec-2015 20:05:04 by Chunksofplum

Mar

2018

Scret

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Esploratore said :
Scret said :
Esploratore said :
KitKat said :
Some clans base rank ups on how many people someone can recruit. Maybe this is the case and the Clan Leaders aren't aware of how aggressive their clan mates are being?

Good point, Snowflakey.

I just checked and they do indeed give points for recruiting. Perhaps it would be helpful if their leadership would emphasize trying to recruit from the clan-less pool rather than those already in a clan.

That would be the nice thing to do, considering they already have approximately 1200 in their community.

I agree its poor form and can get a bit annoying but at the end of it all you gotta ask yourself how loyal that member is if they are leaving under whatever the circumstance might be.

I know of a certain clan who would pay a lot of money for the higher xp earners of certain ranked clans around them to join them.

The member is loyal and is staying in our clan. But they have felt a certain amount of stress due to the pressure they've been placed under. It's not a good situation for several reasons. That's why I brought it up.

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