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Ninmci

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Very sorry Shauny But did i hear you say Group shared CLAN banking.

Not only have you done the impossible clan permission rework almost .

And then you wisper another impossible thing clans have been requesting for years .

Right at the very end of video is shared banking


February - The Month Ahead Q&A > 41:20 https://youtu.be/fsTs6KHJh2A

I understand that having a clan bank that 500 people can use is a nightmare to implement .

But if shared banking was accessible to 10 or 20 clan admin or higher this would let

clans have a very useful tool for equipment sharing Event rewards - or higher ranks dumping unwanted items for others to use .


A Clan trading store.

I Dont think you will ever be able to give us a clan credit system . or is it whatever is put in store is free for any one who has access .

Very early days But after avatar updates are implemented . A better way for clan members to share lend / accept unwanted items is something i We have always wanted .
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14-Feb-2018 09:56:11 - Last edited on 14-Feb-2018 10:23:50 by Ninmci

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The way other games do this with their guild banks is that anyone can donate stuff to the bank (unless a bank tab is specifically accessible only by a certain rank) but only people of certain ranks can withdraw, and some even go further by setting daily or weekly withdrawal limits which can be changed by officers/admins. Could see this feature having some similar checks in place to prevent theft of items from the bank if implemented. You cannot pass! I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the Flame of Anor. The dark fire will not avail you, Flame of Udun! Go back to the shadow. You shall not pass!

14-Feb-2018 10:21:28

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If this is done, & I hope it is, I would love something like you can't use the clan bank if you've traded with a player in the last 2 days, & when you use the clan bank, you can't trade with another player for the next 2 days.
(actually I'd like it to be 7, but I'll take anything.........)

I would like the above implemented for trading skilling outfit pieces too, because when Jagex decided they could only trade 1:1, it was to prevent profiteering.

Well the scum combined with the lazy to circumvent that nicely.


If not the above, then I'm looking for some sort of mechanic to make sure clan members aren't profiting from their clanMATES.

It would be great if we could provide our clan members with access to things they might need, such as the idea here.

It would also be great if it was unable to be used to exploit clan members.

I understand this may not be possible, but hopefully some of you can come with some better ideas than mine.
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14-Feb-2018 11:21:31

Lyrehca

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Perhaps if it involved only lending items, or swapping certain items in some way, maybe.

Full on clan banking the way I've seen it discussed, with skilling supplies and other consumable items, would open too much potential for scamming, theft or just plain greed. I truly don't see a fair way to implement a full clan bank, even with limited access.

In the past I've held a tab in my bank for "clan items": unwanted items donated by clan members, usually when they did bank cleaning. This included basically anything in my bank as well, though the clan never realized it.

Members had only to look over the list on our clan forum and let me know what they wanted. If something needed wasn't on the list, I'd sell some useless items for the cash to buy what they wanted from the GE.

Though most were pretty good about taking only what they needed, there were a few bent on cleaning out smithing or herblore supplies, rather than taking a portion and leaving some for others. It became a chore to try to limit people on what they could take out fairly or get people to reciprocate by making donations.

I've since done away with the clan bank and just try to help my clan get what they need. Sometimes it's advice on money making, sometimes it's buying stuff off GE for them, if I don't have what they need. While we don't have any greedy clan members left at this time, there is one that will take full advantage of every opportunity he gets. Also, every time we get a new recruit, it opens the potential for a clan bank to be abused.

14-Feb-2018 12:16:06 - Last edited on 14-Feb-2018 12:23:08 by Lyrehca

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I would be absolutely delighted to get our clan bank off my alt and into something more organised.

Having a system that currently requires that we have a clan auditor is overly cumbersome.
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15-Feb-2018 09:31:36

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Lyrehca said :
Perhaps if it involved only lending items, or swapping certain items in some way, maybe.

Full on clan banking the way I've seen it discussed, with skilling supplies and other consumable items, would open too much potential for scamming, theft or just plain greed. I truly don't see a fair way to implement a full clan bank, even with limited access.

In the past I've held a tab in my bank for "clan items": unwanted items donated by clan members, usually when they did bank cleaning. This included basically anything in my bank as well, though the clan never realized it.

Members had only to look over the list on our clan forum and let me know what they wanted. If something needed wasn't on the list, I'd sell some useless items for the cash to buy what they wanted from the GE.

Though most were pretty good about taking only what they needed, there were a few bent on cleaning out smithing or herblore supplies, rather than taking a portion and leaving some for others. It became a chore to try to limit people on what they could take out fairly or get people to reciprocate by making donations.

See the problem with this game over recent years has been that theres too much emphasis on what will and what wont cause a scam, if we concern ourselves too much on whats a possible scam then it just sucks all the potential or fun from the game as it already has done, its a shell of a game it once was ad thats because people have bee bubble wrapped. whos left to scam when the game no longer has players?

I see no issues with a clan bank, people just have to diligent i what they are doing and i mean there are plenty of ways to make it safe so lets think about safety alongside these features.
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17-Feb-2018 18:41:35

Ninmci

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The topic of a Clan bank for clans was not directly spoken about in video but if its possible for Ironman how is it not possible for clans.

All i want is some way keep clan money and lend more than 1 item

Some place to dump unwanted items that other members of clan need


Im a packrat that stores everything but running out of space i cant keep low grade items to give to noobs
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Lyrehca

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Scret said :
Lyrehca said :
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See the problem with this game over recent years has been that theres too much emphasis on what will and what wont cause a scam, if we concern ourselves too much on whats a possible scam then it just sucks all the potential or fun from the game as it already has done, its a shell of a game it once was ad thats because people have bee bubble wrapped. whos left to scam when the game no longer has players?

I see no issues with a clan bank, people just have to diligent i what they are doing and i mean there are plenty of ways to make it safe so lets think about safety alongside these features.
Falling for a scam on your own is one thing - only yourself to blame if you weren't diligent, only yourself affected. Feeling responsible for other members in the clan if the clan gets scammed is another. I wouldn't want anyone in my clan to be, or even feel, scammed because someone we let into our group was not trustworthy.

19-Feb-2018 05:22:24

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Ninmci said :
The topic of a Clan bank for clans was not directly spoken about in video but if its possible for Ironman how is it not possible for clans.

All i want is some way keep clan money and lend more than 1 item

Some place to dump unwanted items that other members of clan need


Im a packrat that stores everything but running out of space I cant keep low grade items to give to noobs
Hmm I'm not sure if the idea is to allow us to free up bankspace.
I never considered that, I wouldn't be against it, but I was thinking more of a system where you list items in your bank that are available to lend.

Either way however it's implemented I would support it.

& further on what Lyrehca said, even if a clan member is scammed by someone not in our clan I feel it.
I encourage everyone to look out for each other.

I haven't noticed at all that Jagex don't implement updates in the fear that it could create scams.
I feel the opposite, they keep updating despite the possibility for scams, & I don't hold it against them.

It's interesting that we have basically opposite perceptions.

I think in terms of dying we have been bubble wrapped, but I've never felt that way about scams, there are still many many scams in game.
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