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LordMartell
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Very hard to understand what you are saying (English please). I myself have been following clans since day one and I wonder if you have been? The permission system is not even the topic. Clan citadels rework is.....
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More skill plots are wanted
Skill plot xp adjusted
Battlefield replaced with better content
This has been discussed for years now. Yes you're right just like I have said. It would take time and yes it would be ready for release by now. Instead we upgrade solomons store every month (rip loyalty points), rework combat over and over, world events, treasure hunter with promotional items just to name a few. Ask yourself this.... would we of had the time to rework the citadel over the last 2+ years like clans have asked for if we didn't have solomons, combat reworks often, treasure hunter and world events? or did we need all of this since they were not topics in the forums for as long as the citadels have been? The answer is yes we would of had time and resources.
I asked last year during the power of the players poll if we could have a poll to rework the citadel. It was the year of the player remember? The answer was NO! You know why? Cause its what everybody wanted and would of delayed all these little things you tend to love. The only thing my clan has liked is the clan broadcast system and that's it. Now you can go on all you want bashing what i'm asking mod matthe but the bottom line is I am only asking what the majority of clans wants and that's a complete rework of the citadel.
As for the world I live in, clearly it's not in your world cause my world speaks for the community, not myself
There are many things we could have developed in the last few years, and many things we have developed, but a Citadel rework has not been at the top of our list - this is largely due to the huge size of the required project and the relatively low value of that development compared to other projects of similar size. A Citadel rework would be at least the size of Elf City in the development, artist and testing time required - this is because it has to work with not just a character moving around it but also has to take account and work in synergy with the Clan data systems. This makes it a massive project.
A Citadel Rework was therefore too large a project for the Player Power polls and that was why it was not included in those polls. This year we introduced Runelabs but currently it has not been the case that there has been a high demand/support for Clan development - I wish it was a more popular choice but currently quests, bosses, skill updates and tweaks that are essentially ninja changes seem to be far more to the liking of the masses.
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Very hard to understand what you are saying (English please). I myself have been following clans since day one and I wonder if you have been? The permission system is not even the topic. Clan citadels rework is.....
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More skill plots are wanted
Skill plot xp adjusted
Battlefield replaced with better content
This has been discussed for years now. Yes you're right just like I have said. It would take time and yes it would be ready for release by now. Instead we upgrade solomons store every month (rip loyalty points), rework combat over and over, world events, treasure hunter with promotional items just to name a few. Ask yourself this.... would we of had the time to rework the citadel over the last 2+ years like clans have asked for if we didn't have solomons, combat reworks often, treasure hunter and world events? or did we need all of this since they were not topics in the forums for as long as the citadels have been? The answer is yes we would of had time and resources.
I asked last year during the power of the players poll if we could have a poll to rework the citadel. It was the year of the player remember? The answer was NO! You know why? Cause its what everybody wanted and would of delayed all these little things you tend to love. The only thing my clan has liked is the clan broadcast system and that's it. Now you can go on all you want bashing what i'm asking mod matthe but the bottom line is I am only asking what the majority of clans wants and that's a complete rework of the citadel.
As for the world I live in, clearly it's not in your world cause my world speaks for the community, not myself
There are many things we could have developed in the last few years, and many things we have developed, but a Citadel rework has not been at the top of our list - this is largely due to the huge size of the required project and the relatively low value of that development compared to other projects of similar size. A Citadel rework would be at least the size of Elf City in the development, artist and testing time required - this is because it has to work with not just a character moving around it but also has to take account and work in synergy with the Clan data systems. This makes it a massive project.
A Citadel Rework was therefore too large a project for the Player Power polls and that was why it was not included in those polls. This year we introduced Runelabs but currently it has not been the case that there has been a high demand/support for Clan development - I wish it was a more popular choice but currently quests, bosses, skill updates and tweaks that are essentially ninja changes seem to be far more to the liking of the masses.
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12-Mar-2015 09:47:41
LordMartell
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Mod Matthe,
Thank you for the reply, much appreciated. I am a little confused as to the elf city response you have given .
"A Citadel Rework was therefore too large a project for the Player Power polls and that was why it was not included in those polls."
Did we not vote on the plagues end quest to end the elf series quest story line, which opened elf city and began the work on elf city? Correct me if I am wrong. I do not recall in over the last 2 years we have polled the community on a clan scale such as we did for the quest to unlock the elf city and begin the devolpment.
With that being said the rune labs tend to be the communities way of establishing future content for runescape but you state and I quote...
"This year we introduced Runelabs but currently it has not been the case that there has been a high demand/support for Clan development"
Is it possible to either poll the community to determine how many players want the clan/citadel rework to happen or do I need to start a petition asking the community to show their support on the player forums? I am confident the players have wanted this to happen for quiet sometime now but it was never polled to the community. I could go to runelabs and make the suggestion but with the reply you have given me, I know it will not be considered until we either poll the community or have a forum poll showing the support from the community.
Any help or suggestions on this matter is greatly appreciated. I am now curious to know how many players want this to happen.
Regards,
LordMartell
Elf City was out first poll, vs the Inventor skill and it was Elf City that won. That is why that development was begun - the quest came out of the vote for Elf City, not the other way around.
Runelabs is the place to show the demand for such development - when I say that "it has not been the case that there has been a high demand/support for Clan development" this is because the Clan suggestions listed on RuneLabs so far have gained little support compared to other content for development. If the community did show strong support for such changes through Runelabs, over and above other content, then we would have a stronger incentive to re-examine the Citadel.
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Mod Matthe,
Thank you for the reply, much appreciated. I am a little confused as to the elf city response you have given .
"A Citadel Rework was therefore too large a project for the Player Power polls and that was why it was not included in those polls."
Did we not vote on the plagues end quest to end the elf series quest story line, which opened elf city and began the work on elf city? Correct me if I am wrong. I do not recall in over the last 2 years we have polled the community on a clan scale such as we did for the quest to unlock the elf city and begin the devolpment.
With that being said the rune labs tend to be the communities way of establishing future content for runescape but you state and I quote...
"This year we introduced Runelabs but currently it has not been the case that there has been a high demand/support for Clan development"
Is it possible to either poll the community to determine how many players want the clan/citadel rework to happen or do I need to start a petition asking the community to show their support on the player forums? I am confident the players have wanted this to happen for quiet sometime now but it was never polled to the community. I could go to runelabs and make the suggestion but with the reply you have given me, I know it will not be considered until we either poll the community or have a forum poll showing the support from the community.
Any help or suggestions on this matter is greatly appreciated. I am now curious to know how many players want this to happen.
Regards,
LordMartell
Elf City was out first poll, vs the Inventor skill and it was Elf City that won. That is why that development was begun - the quest came out of the vote for Elf City, not the other way around.
Runelabs is the place to show the demand for such development - when I say that "it has not been the case that there has been a high demand/support for Clan development" this is because the Clan suggestions listed on RuneLabs so far have gained little support compared to other content for development. If the community did show strong support for such changes through Runelabs, over and above other content, then we would have a stronger incentive to re-examine the Citadel.
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13-Mar-2015 08:56:31
Yes you are correct, thanks I forgot
It is because players are losing interest in the citadels because nothing has changed. My clan barely gets 30 people a week to the citadel now. The skill plots are aged and little training xp per hour gained. Nothing new to build since tier 7. A battlefield nobody likes at all. A theater which even IDK why we got one. Avatars that only admins + ranks can use if they are even online. ETC. The lack of interest for clans on runelabs compared to other content is because the other content is way better then the proposed clan updates.
I myself proposed slayer in the citadel which never made it to the voting stage. It wasn't selected for the community to decide on. This would of been an excellent way to replace the battlefield with a clan slayer area that would reap clan rewards, overrides and slayer xp to help build/upkeep the citadels weekly. Imagine if we asked the community if they wanted a clan citadel that was comparable to elf city. 12 skill plots, a slayer dungeon dedicated to their clan only, avatar permission for all members and so on. The community will out vote this over any other idea proposed including quests.
I am going to pose the idea via clan petition to the community to see how much support is out there. Every player I have spoken to has supported the idea. I will also re type the thought to runelabs to see if it goes to the community. It has been a forum discussion for years now, I think the best solution is a community poll but I will do what I can with runelabs and a petition. *´¨)
¸.•´¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨) LordMartell
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It is because players are losing interest in the citadels because nothing has changed. My clan barely gets 30 people a week to the citadel now. The skill plots are aged and little training xp per hour gained. Nothing new to build since tier 7. A battlefield nobody likes at all. A theater which even IDK why we got one. Avatars that only admins + ranks can use if they are even online. ETC. The lack of interest for clans on runelabs compared to other content is because the other content is way better then the proposed clan updates.
I myself proposed slayer in the citadel which never made it to the voting stage. It wasn't selected for the community to decide on. This would of been an excellent way to replace the battlefield with a clan slayer area that would reap clan rewards, overrides and slayer xp to help build/upkeep the citadels weekly. Imagine if we asked the community if they wanted a clan citadel that was comparable to elf city. 12 skill plots, a slayer dungeon dedicated to their clan only, avatar permission for all members and so on. The community will out vote this over any other idea proposed including quests.
I am going to pose the idea via clan petition to the community to see how much support is out there. Every player I have spoken to has supported the idea. I will also re type the thought to runelabs to see if it goes to the community. It has been a forum discussion for years now, I think the best solution is a community poll but I will do what I can with runelabs and a petition. *´¨)
¸.•´¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨) LordMartell
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13-Mar-2015 22:27:24
I care passionately about our citadel and our clan in general, as I am sure everyone else including our lovely J Mods do too, but am guilty of supporting non citadel related Runelabs ideas as they are what the majority appear to want in our clan anyway.
Thankfully we don't have a problem with the numbers capping at the citadel, always get around 100 of the clan capping each week to maintain it, and for their personal and clan xp gain.
I too put forward a suggestion as a temporary improvement for those clans who are struggling to get sufficient clan mates capping, to enable alternative skill xp to be gained there via a toggle facility e.g. The Obelisk could give either Summoning or Divination xp or perhaps 2 huge xp lamps (any skill) as a reward for completion of the citadel cap rather than the xp gain and bonus xp which is in place at the moment.
Another suggestion I have seen was to remove avatars and link xp gain to the clan fealty stars instead (one star : 2% extra xp, two stars : 4% extra xp and three stars : 6% extra xp)
There have been some great updates for us over the past 18 months that I have been a member of the forum, particularly the re-balancing of the xp and the improvement to the Smithing plot (tier 6 and 7). And we voted in a reduction in the upkeep resources too with a forum vote, which has taken the pressure off for many clans with fewer members/ lots of seasonally inactive members.
We may not always get what we would like for our clan mates in the time scale we would like, but what we do get is direct input from our J Mods and the support of each other, which is the most important thing for me personally.
Netty
Clan leader of Bonded
Thankfully we don't have a problem with the numbers capping at the citadel, always get around 100 of the clan capping each week to maintain it, and for their personal and clan xp gain.
I too put forward a suggestion as a temporary improvement for those clans who are struggling to get sufficient clan mates capping, to enable alternative skill xp to be gained there via a toggle facility e.g. The Obelisk could give either Summoning or Divination xp or perhaps 2 huge xp lamps (any skill) as a reward for completion of the citadel cap rather than the xp gain and bonus xp which is in place at the moment.
Another suggestion I have seen was to remove avatars and link xp gain to the clan fealty stars instead (one star : 2% extra xp, two stars : 4% extra xp and three stars : 6% extra xp)
There have been some great updates for us over the past 18 months that I have been a member of the forum, particularly the re-balancing of the xp and the improvement to the Smithing plot (tier 6 and 7). And we voted in a reduction in the upkeep resources too with a forum vote, which has taken the pressure off for many clans with fewer members/ lots of seasonally inactive members.
We may not always get what we would like for our clan mates in the time scale we would like, but what we do get is direct input from our J Mods and the support of each other, which is the most important thing for me personally.
Netty
Clan leader of Bonded
16-Mar-2015 12:15:24
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