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Abby Taylor
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@Realm Reaper

"you would have capes like the zuk capes (requiring skill), but you'd also have variations of other capes (maybe not requiring skill but time). The
other variants would be as powerful as the Zuk Capes
"

I like that suggestion, and it's the kind of thing I prefer over the narrow minded "NO it has to be THIS WAY" mentality of other people in the thread.

Runescape players have a really short sighted conservative way of approaching this game, and sometimes the developers enable that attitude.

I would totally support a different type of Zuk cape with equal stats earned by some other manner of play.
Tbh this game focuses on combat so much these days, and even the "skilling boss" Croesus, didn't make a skilling boss, it's just combat based on skills really, you just do the same stuff that you do when fighting other bosses.

"To have accessibility for all content, with both options of time vs skill available, it would dilute the game in my opinion."

I'm not sure what you mean by "dilute" here, maybe some clarification.

I've seen people argue on the forums constantly that other people being able to have something shouldn't affect your enjoyment of that thing.
But then they complain when exclusive items are made available. Or things are made easier to get for others.


Personally (and this isn't a suggestion or argument). I've always wanted a version of Runescape where all items were tradable. Because in theory it would open the game up to allow people to obtain things however they wanted.

Basically people could earn GP doing the content they actually enjoy, to buy rewards from other players who do content they prefer. Like trading a dragon egg to a skiller, or trading fish for combat related stuff.

In the real world we call that specialization.
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30-May-2022 00:51:45 - Last edited on 30-May-2022 00:52:51 by Abby Taylor

Draco Burnz
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DanzNutz said :
no support, so we can just buy anything now without working for it?
sorry, you got to earn some things.

Exactly.

Not everything should be buyable with currency as that would defeat the whole point in training skills and earning things.

So if you want some high end items, be ready to actually put effort into obtaining them.
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30-May-2022 12:12:29

Draco Burnz
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Abby Taylor said :

Technically if you earned the money to pay for an item, then by proxy you earned the item.

Whether you fought a boss and got lucky.
or you grinded at a skilling location for 20 years.



This is like saying just because you managed to get to jad but failed, you should be able to get the FC.

Nope you didnt earn the right to just like ppl didnt earn the right to wear these w/o going through the content.


Abby Taylor said :

Many items can be obtained in a variety of ways, and many items can only be obtained one way.



So with this logic should ppl be allowed to obtain warpriest armor outside GWD1?

I mean that only has 1 source of obtaining yet ppl are ok with that.

So if that can only have 1 source whats so bad about these capes?
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30-May-2022 12:15:01 - Last edited on 30-May-2022 12:20:27 by Draco Burnz

Jack Flac
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Draco Burnz said :


Abby Taylor said :

Many items can be obtained in a variety of ways, and many items can only be obtained one way.



So with this logic should ppl be allowed to obtain warpriest armor outside GWD1?

I mean that only has 1 source of obtaining yet ppl are ok with that.

So if that can only have 1 source whats so bad about these capes?

I mean warpriest armour was originally released through an event shop, where anybody could get it with enough points earned during the event.

No reason they couldn't just add them to another shop, like they did with Tuskas. Make it so that f2p can reearn them. Leader of The Enemy ||
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Jeremy Cheng
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Abomination cape is basically tradeable fire cape, so it doesn't need to be able to be bought with tokkul.

I think each of the tokhaar kal capes should be able to be bought with tokkul I'd say each are worth around 50m tokkul each and not refundable to be a tokkul sink. Players can talk to tokhaar-hok to buy your kal capes.

I think each of the zuk cape should be able to be bought with tokkul I'd say each are worth around 500m tokkul each and not refundable to be a tokkul sink. Players can talk to zuk to buy your zuk capes.

01-Jun-2022 02:59:13

Jack Flac
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Jeremy Cheng said :
Abomination cape is basically tradeable fire cape, so it doesn't need to be able to be bought with tokkul.

I think each of the tokhaar kal capes should be able to be bought with tokkul I'd say each are worth around 50m tokkul each and not refundable to be a tokkul sink. Players can talk to tokhaar-hok to buy your kal capes.

I think each of the zuk cape should be able to be bought with tokkul I'd say each are worth around 500m tokkul each and not refundable to be a tokkul sink. Players can talk to zuk to buy your zuk capes. Don't think the Abomination cape gives the bonus needed to do Ice Strykeworms though. Thats the biggest feature of the fire cape over other capes. Leader of The Enemy ||
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01-Jun-2022 03:05:33

Draco Burnz
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Jack Flac said :


I mean warpriest armour was originally released through an event shop, where anybody could get it with enough points earned during the event.

No reason they couldn't just add them to another shop, like they did with Tuskas. Make it so that f2p can reearn them.

Nah f2p had their chance to earn them so if they want it they can always just use a bond and try to get it while they have membership.

Its another way jagex can make money off bonds as it gives ppl reason to keep rebuying them.
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01-Jun-2022 03:21:40

Jack Flac
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Draco Burnz said :
Jack Flac said :


I mean warpriest armour was originally released through an event shop, where anybody could get it with enough points earned during the event.

No reason they couldn't just add them to another shop, like they did with Tuskas. Make it so that f2p can reearn them.

Nah f2p had their chance to earn them so if they want it they can always just use a bond and try to get it while they have membership.

Its another way jagex can make money off bonds as it gives ppl reason to keep rebuying them. Ya know, your mentality of f2p don't get jackshit is the kind of mentality that will kill off this game.

Theres constantly new players coming in. Making something that was f2p essentialy members only is a good way to kill off a game. They did it with the DA removal, they did it with warpriest. They do it with a lot of things. It's just bad design choices all around. Leader of The Enemy ||
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01-Jun-2022 03:25:22

Draco Burnz
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Jack Flac said :


Theres constantly new players coming in. Making something that was f2p essentialy members only is a good way to kill off a game. They did it with the DA removal, they did it with warpriest. They do it with a lot of things. It's just bad design choices all around.

Never said f2p shouldnt get anything.

Theres loads of things that were once f2p but are now members only.

Case in point the discontinued Boogie Bow was f2p on release yet they changed it.

So why the same cant happen here is beyond me.
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01-Jun-2022 12:02:40

Sylvanheart
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Abby Taylor said :
I support this. :)

I dislike how over the years the game has focused so heavily towards high level PVM content that some players simply can't keep up with.

The game was never this complicated or reaction intensive in the past, and a core component of Runescapes former success was it's simplicity and accessibility. (which caused many players to leave after the evolution of combat)


It's not about making everything buyable as some say, but since runescape is an open world role playing game, it's not absurd to imagine that there is more than one way to solve a problem or progress.

I think it speaks to a lack of imagination and creativity that people believe everything should only be approached one way, Intense Combat.
The majority of Runescape does not revolve around combat, many quests are simple fun, and the majority of skills are non-combat related.

It makes perfect sense to be able to obtain the cape in a non-combat related activity, by spending time or money.

There is more than one way to skin a cat, as they say. ;)

Just quoting this because it's so good.

03-Jun-2022 14:01:33

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