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Dilbert2001
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I do think you miss read the wiki a bit.
They never confirm moia is undercontroll of xau-tak.

It only seems like moia is enslaving bilrach with some kind of purple power.

Nobody does say a thing about xau-tak.
Speculation is fine, but once again noting is confirmed. ;)

Nobody except Jmods can confirm any future content. We are discussing about the most probable events WITH reasons.

Nobody does say a thing about Xau-Tak?

"Since the tainted shard mentions Moia in a sinister manner when fully charged, Xau-Tak was expected to be behind the event. "

https://runescape.wiki/w/Moia#Succession


I posted this just on this page already. The RS Wiki stated that.

08-Dec-2023 17:57:48

Dilbert2001
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Indeed was expected.
Once again we did not got a confirmation about this.
Its all speculation and guesses no confirmations.

Again, we are not talking anything about confirmations. This thread is about what do we think. If you are not interested in the discussion, like we have been doing with H I L D A and such, then thanks but you have already told us your opinion.

Meanwhile, it is confirmed Zemo is our prisoner and Bilrach is under the influence of a purple aura, and the Zamorakian Mahjarrat have run out of prayers of Rituals. They are just doomed slaves and puppets.

08-Dec-2023 18:21:51

Qwis7
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"I would argue that the World Events weren't the greatest idea when it comes to imparting lore beyond them either."


You can't argue with lore and stories, as this is what almost every long running and still very successful MMORPG are doing.

Whether you liked it or not, lore and stories told us the shadow Domina Moia is no longer what she was years ago now. She is under the control of Xau-Tak as most players, including the RS Wiki, acknowledged.



Sorry I did read this part of you and was thinking you did say wiki and many players confirm this theory.
My bad then if this is not true.

08-Dec-2023 18:44:37

Dilbert2001
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"I would argue that the World Events weren't the greatest idea when it comes to imparting lore beyond them either."


You can't argue with lore and stories, as this is what almost every long running and still very successful MMORPG are doing.

Whether you liked it or not, lore and stories told us the shadow Domina Moia is no longer what she was years ago now. She is under the control of Xau-Tak as most players, including the RS Wiki, acknowledged.



Sorry I did read this part of you and was thinking you did say wiki and many players confirm this theory.
My bad then if this is not true.

"Since the tainted shard mentions Moia in a sinister manner when fully charged, Xau-Tak was expected to be behind the event. "

https://runescape.wiki/w/Moia#Succession

Yes, your bad according to RS Wiki. Nobody said anything about confirmation except you.

It won't change the stories anyway because regardless who is controling Moia, Zemo and Bilrach are now slaves and puppets of her.

Zemo is proven to be the prisoner of war to the World Guardian. Adding insults to injuries, he is captured by ordinally Fort guards, not even anybody of greater powers. Zemo can cry how huuuggggeee he is only behind bars, but the multiverse can see just a clown behind bars talking trash. :D

08-Dec-2023 19:45:01

Qwis7
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Wait what???
I honestly do not follow you.

You first claim xau-tax is controlling moia.
Quote: "
Whether you liked it or not, lore and stories told us the shadow Domina Moia is no longer what she was years ago now. She is under the control of Xau-Tak as most players, including the RS Wiki, acknowledged."

I do say this is not true because it is a speculation not a confirmed xau-tak does anything with or has done with moia.



"Since the tainted shard mentions Moia in a sinister manner when fully charged, Xau-Tak was
expected to be behind the event.
"

Wiki does not claim moia is beign controlled by xau-tak or that xau-tak is part of the event.
Just speculations.


Do you also say that xau-tak is not controlling moia?
Or do you say xau-tak is controlling moia?

There is no information known xau-tak is controlling or has anything done to moia.
Just a "expecting" aka speculation of the wiki.

08-Dec-2023 22:35:54

Dilbert2001
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Wait what???
I honestly do not follow you.

You first claim xau-tax is controlling moia.
Quote: "
Whether you liked it or not, lore and stories told us the shadow Domina Moia is no longer what she was years ago now. She is under the control of Xau-Tak as most players, including the RS Wiki, acknowledged."

I do say this is not true because it is a speculation not a confirmed xau-tak does anything with or has done with moia.



"Since the tainted shard mentions Moia in a sinister manner when fully charged, Xau-Tak was
expected to be behind the event.
"

Wiki does not claim moia is beign controlled by xau-tak or that xau-tak is part of the event.
Just speculations.


Do you also say that xau-tak is not controlling moia?
Or do you say xau-tak is controlling moia?

There is no information known xau-tak is controlling or has anything done to moia.
Just a "expecting" aka speculation of the wiki.

Thank you for quoting me. As we can all see easily or use whatever tools like "FIND", "confirmed" or "confirmation" are absolutely not there.

I have stated my fact, if you want to argue with the RS Wiki, go argue with them, not me.

I am just going to entertain constructive discussions with the rest of the RSS community on the AFTERMATH of Battle of Forinthry.

08-Dec-2023 23:24:25

Dilbert2001
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Now, for those who are really interested in the quest and its aftermath, we should easily see the demise of the Zamorakian Mahjarrat. There are almost powerless now as Moia has apparently sucked up most of their powers. Bilrach is a puppet controlled by a purple aura. Zemo is just trash and captured by ordinally Fort guards.

Zamorakian Mahjarrat was weak to begin with. Even Zamorak has been week without the Staff of Armadyl. The tides have changed to the Zarosian side long ago, even before the return of Zaros. Just look at Sliske who got a hold of both the Stone and the Staff, and then Azzanadra even becomes a god. Zamorkian Mahjarrat are just trash with big mouths and illusions. They are doomed.

Perhaps the question should be why are Zarosian passively stronger? The key may have lie on Necromancy... and the shadow. Do you notice the colors of Necromancy? Purple and Green. Logically, players may think about Zaros when they see Purple and Guthix when they see Green. However, we have gone through all the Necromancy quests and lore and Zaros is not where remotely mentioned. Guthix was mentioned briefly by Rasial, but he wasn't remotely involved in Necromancy.

That brings up the better question... Does the color purple really associated to Zaros originally? And in this respect does is Green tied to Guthix originally? Or there are some Necromancy NPCs who actually are assigned these two colors, and Zaros and Guthix just learned from them?

Anyway, we should be glad the big mouth illusionist Zemo has proven to be trash and behind bars now. After we take care of the puppet Bilrach starting early next month, then it should be long before we get to Moia, and get ready for the Age of Chaos storyline later next year.

08-Dec-2023 23:39:18

Qwis7
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Sorry to say, but could you pls not avoid the question?
Just short and straith answer.


1. Do you also say that xau-tak is not controlling moia?
2. Do you say xau-tak is controlling moia

First or second?

09-Dec-2023 06:48:00

Dilbert2001
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"That brings up the better question... Does the color purple really associated to Zaros originally? And in this respect does is Green tied to Guthix originally? Or there are some Necromancy NPCs who actually are assigned these two colors, and Zaros and Guthix just learned from them?"


There are actually more interesting questions than this, regarding Necromancy and the shadow.

Remember two prehistoric dragonkin adventured into the kingdom of shadow according to the grandmother of The Ambassador? One dragonkin took the black pebble from the old man and the other one took the glistening stone and later became a heralded hero. It should not be a surprise with the black pebble in the king of shadow. But why was there a glistening stone in the kingdom of shadow too? ;)

OK. Let's forward the prehistoric flight of the two dragonkin a bit to Daemonheim, which is the closest landing spot from Orthen, or Anachronia in present time. Cool! Perhaps the prehistoric dragonkin met the shadow there most logically, but wait... we know about the stories of the shadow in Senntisten in several Senntisten digsite mysteries as well as the EGW cutscene narrated by Azzanadra, right? But Senntisten is so far away from Daemonheim. Where exactly is the "kingdom of shadow"? Daemonheim or Senntisten? Where is Erebus exactly?

Then come the "Great Wars" which Bilrach said in his Chronicles we found in the Daemonheim Dungeon, that the Dragonkin ended. What "Great Wars" were they and how did it play out with the involvements of the Dragonkin?

Well, all those unanswered questions are very interesting, but seemed to be unrelated for years, but perhaps not anymore with the revelation from the Necromancy and the latest Battle of Forinthry quests.

Domina Moia rings the bell. Perhaps Domina and Imperator are the missing links of lots of stories and questions we have regarding Xau-Tak and Dragonkin the past decade.

09-Dec-2023 16:16:16 - Last edited on 09-Dec-2023 16:18:46 by Dilbert2001

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