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Repeal the G.E. Tax Please!

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Kreftet
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quote ''NO! I want to play the game! I want to quest, earn achievements, level, get capes.''
Go do bosses, level up slayer at Nodons etc. get capes! and meanwile during this you will also get the quiver fragments wile playing the game just like you wanted. oh and if you die? costs you like 1 max 2m instead of a few limbs like before this update.

But if you want stuff easy way there is a price to pay for the ''service called GE'' and its called taxes from now. In this case the 6m extra paid for the quiver? Trust me if like the quote earlier realy want to play the game and get achievements in this case "boss logs, pets etc.'' that death cost reduction wil gladly make up for all that '' extra cost'' you talk about.
Expensive gear costs a fortune before this when you died *pernix quiver is also part of this*.

GE is a luxory not a nessesity. In the long run if you realy want to play the game this is a update that will save you more money then you expect.

Oh and there is another quiver in game Tirannwn quiver its free from task system (achievements) maby look into that it costs nothing exept time for the things you already wanted to do in the game anyway.

18-Jan-2023 19:07:59 - Last edited on 18-Jan-2023 19:16:27 by Kreftet

Ruby_Red0
Jun Member 2022

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The tax has had zero impact on my gameplay.

I see no reason to remove it.


Im sure Jagex is thrilled that you are having a great time and enjoying your new tax, Foxxie.


I watch the videos the
JMods
make. Quite a few said
we can avoid the tax by soliciting player to player trades.
And maybe we can, if we dont mind dedicating our existence to bartering around the Grand Exchange.

Im sure Im not the only one that watched those videos.

I am operating just like a real life business now. In real life, the customer pays the tax, and if you buy something of mine on the GE, it comes with an extra 2% on top of the GSRP (game-suggested retail price).

I would have paid 130 to 133M for the Pernix Quiver, because it would match my Pernix Armour. But when you put into perspective what the Quiver actually does, the fact that I wanted it was a luxury because its debatable whether anyone really needs it at all.

I dont blame the player for passing the tax onto any potential buyer. Its logical to do so.
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18-Jan-2023 22:40:02

Ruby_Red0
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quote: " Go do bosses, level up slayer at Nodons etc. get capes! and meanwile during this you will also get the quiver fragments wile playing the game just like you wanted. oh and if you die? costs you like 1 max 2m instead of a few limbs like before this update.

But if you want stuff easy way there is a price to pay for the ''service called GE'' and its called taxes from now. In this case the 6m extra paid for the quiver? Trust me if like the quote earlier realy want to play the game and get achievements in this case "boss logs, pets etc.'' that death cost reduction wil gladly make up for all that '' extra cost'' you talk about.
Expensive gear costs a fortune before this when you died *pernix quiver is also part of this*.

GE is a luxory not a nessesity. In the long run if you realy want to play the game this is a update that will save you more money then you expect.

Oh and there is another quiver in game Tirannwn quiver its free from task system (achievements) maby look into that it costs nothing exept time for the things you already wanted to do in the game anyway.


Two Problems here:

Death cost reduction only aids PvMers.
That leaves every other player subsidizing PvMers gameplay in a way. I didnt realize PvMers were so poor.

Just like PKing, not everyone is cut out for PvM. Or, their hardware isnt cut out for PvM.

The game has tons more content than just 'Bosses" to complete to make a player any kind of asset to a group in PvM.

Ive done some bossing. Its not fun when people keep patting themselves on the back for carrying you. The person I ran with had a stone he put done that healed us. I just got that stone recently, and would have NEVER gotten it if all I did was 'get carried' in PvM.


GE may be a luxury to you.
Maybe Runescape is the only MMO you ever played and that is why you think its a luxury.
New(ish) Player
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This is YOUR world, and I'm just a squirrel tryin' to get a nut.
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18-Jan-2023 22:51:18 - Last edited on 18-Jan-2023 22:52:50 by Ruby_Red0

Ruby_Red0
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I cant put 1 rune on the GE without it being taxed. That doesnt seem fair.

I would ask why did Jagex bother with a crap-ton of skills (some of which seem useless except to get a max cape), and a crap-ton of Quests, and a crap-ton of Achievement if all a player was supposed to do was go 'bossing'?

One thing I was just learning to appreciate was the many diverse ways this game can be played.

PvMers got reduced Death costs.


Fair enough. That's not a bad thing.

What does the rest of the player-base get?
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18-Jan-2023 22:54:38 - Last edited on 18-Jan-2023 23:03:53 by Ruby_Red0

Dilbert2001
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I cant put 1 rune on the GE without it being taxed. That doesnt seem fair.

I would ask why did Jagex bother with a crap-ton of skills (some of which seem useless except to get a max cape), and a crap-ton of Quests, and a crap-ton of Achievement if all a player was supposed to do was go 'bossing'?

One thing I was just learning to appreciate was the many diverse ways this game can be played.

PvMers got reduced Death costs.


Fair enough. That's not a bad thing.

What does the rest of the player-base get?


You can craft a billion air rune and sell them on the GE without paying 1 gp. Items below 50 gp aren't taxed.

18-Jan-2023 23:54:33

Ruby_Red0
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I cant put 1 rune on the GE without it being taxed. That doesnt seem fair.

I would ask why did Jagex bother with a crap-ton of skills (some of which seem useless except to get a max cape), and a crap-ton of Quests, and a crap-ton of Achievement if all a player was supposed to do was go 'bossing'?

One thing I was just learning to appreciate was the many diverse ways this game can be played.

PvMers got reduced Death costs.


Fair enough. That's not a bad thing.

What does the rest of the player-base get?


You can craft a billion air rune and sell them on the GE without paying 1 gp. Items below 50 gp aren't taxed.


You have done that Dilbert? You crafted a ton of air runes and put them on the GE and got no tax?

This is your personal experience. Its a fact you are saying?

I mean you are correct, but it would be a strange social experiment beyond even that of the Ironman players to think its fair because a player could limit themselves to selling stuff worth 50 gps or less while reasonably meeting their needs and being happy.

No, they just have to boost the cost to absorb the tax which creates more inflation, and all so PvMers & PKers can have cheaper death costs, and Jagex maintain its much needed coin sink.

Interestingly enough, Jagex releases a lot of coin to PvMers in Boss and trash runs, but we dont want to sink as much of the PvMers coin as we would want to sink any other type of players coin, right?

No, that wouldnt be good. O_o

P.S. Rune essence goes for 120 gps each. You will be hard pressed to get it cheaper, but I guess an air rune crafter wont mind dedicating a portion of their time to mining their own pure essence rather than buy it from another player.
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18-Jan-2023 23:59:12 - Last edited on 19-Jan-2023 00:22:24 by Ruby_Red0

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

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I have personally sold hundreds of thousands of runes including airs below 50 each, not a sing gp tax paid.

This is what Jagex told us:

The release tariff will be 2%, not applying to items traded below 50 coins each.


https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/death-costs-a-matter-of-life-and-death

I haven't been pvming for over a month (except the daily 1 Raptor Rampage kill) but I am making far more money before the GE tax because most pvm items I crafted as a skillers have gone up by far more than 2%.

19-Jan-2023 00:39:14 - Last edited on 19-Jan-2023 00:41:46 by Dilbert2001

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