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UrekMazino
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Stoic n Vain said :
Getting rid of cursed energy will remove the bot activity there, but it'll harm the wild/pking.

Lmao, lets not pretend that counts as pking. Yea sure, you're killing another player (or bot rather), but the player is 130 levels lower than you and is wearing no gear to fight back. The pker is probably just wearing a polypore and titan to reduce loss when he encounters a real pker.

Let's just call it what it is, ragging.
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26-Jun-2018 09:53:45

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whether the bots are there or its just a normal player, pkers are still going to come looking for as its one of the only places left to actually find people. but this does not make it suddenly unfair for the people that get attacked.

you choose to take the risk of being in the wilderness where you can be attacked so that you
can get the reward of better exp and money compared to training div somewhere else.

would be stupid for there to be no risk to it but it still give better reward then high level div wisps

27-Jun-2018 21:03:03

Stoic n Vain

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@UrekMazino:

True. A player killing bots isn't real pking.

The thing is, pkers are drawn to the area. Pkers then have a chance of fighting other pkers.
Pking does happen sometimes at the crater. It's better than nothing. It was even more popular before the update happened to cursed gathering, which killed most of the activity there.

My solution will combat bots, make fighting in the area fair and increase pvp encounters.
Gatherers will have space for food and therefore, can fight back! This'll make it real pvp.

It's the best solution so far, in my opinion.
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11-Jul-2018 07:42:17

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It's good thinking. Unfortunately, any solution like this will harm any legitimate players moreso than bots. It's simply a matter of time available. Bots' time is virtually unlimited. They die, go back, die, go back. Eventually the person killing them (or pickpocketing) will need to go, and they will end up getting plenty of CE.

Real players' time is limited and if they're getting killed, they give up on the content, and > 90% of what's left at any given time is bots. Jagex have tried things like this time and time again in the past, and ultimately this sort of solution only hurts legitimate players.

Urek's right. Even though I've engaged in it on a few occasions (especially on lower level f2p alts), it IS ragging, and it feels fairly futile in the end, even when I was reporting as I killed. I at least tried to make an attempt to distinguish legit players and leave them alone. Killing legits only encourages the botting.

I do support ending the blatant anything-goes-level-be-damned kill mechanic for Cursed though. That's never how the wilderness worked and it feels broken. So I would support seeing a "pickpocket" option for those who should be out of attackable level range, as a step in the right direction.

29-Jul-2018 19:25:51

Stoic n Vain

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@Ivoryshots:
Thanks. Good idea.

@Ghosttalon:
Thanks. Bots do have unlimited time, but if there is a constant flow of many players killing them, they will be significantly impaired. Gatherers (real players) will have space for food and therefore, are able to become pkers or anti-pkers themselves. The aim is for players to dwell at the cursed colony mostly for pvp, but if bots are there, they are free kills and an additional small reward.

Thanks for understanding and supporting that the usual wilderness level restrictions should apply as normal. Thanks for believing that my cursed pickpocketing idea is a step in the right direction.
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12-Aug-2018 07:05:15

UrekMazino
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Stoic n Vain said :
My solution will combat bots, make fighting in the area fair and increase pvp encounters.
Gatherers will have space for food and therefore, can fight back! This'll make it real pvp.

It's the best solution so far, in my opinion.

If by you solution you mean the pickpocketing, can't the bots just run away when you start pickpocketing them? 8 seconds is enough to run 26 tiles away and that'd be out of your screen, maybe the can even program the bots the surge (if they have the mage level).
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15-Aug-2018 12:28:55

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Got another idea, put a coffer in the center of the volcano and people from level 1 to 80 will have to pay a hourly fee to gather those energies and if people kill em they will get the energies plus what's inside the coffer.

Even if the hourly fee is around 800k it will be a huge problem for botters since they die really fast with those lvl 3 accounts.

If you cant control bots at least break their banks so they wont be able to enter volcano again.

15-Aug-2018 15:01:38

UrekMazino
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Guala92 said :
Got another idea, put a coffer in the center of the volcano and people from level 1 to 80 will have to pay a hourly fee to gather those energies and if people kill em they will get the energies plus what's inside the coffer.

Even if the hourly fee is around 800k it will be a huge problem for botters since they die really fast with those lvl 3 accounts.

If you cant control bots at least break their banks so they wont be able to enter volcano again.

1) You'd be hurting regular accounts as well
2) That wouldn't make sense lorewise.
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15-Aug-2018 22:18:15

Stoic n Vain

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@UrekMazino:

The thief will follow his victim while pickpocketing. They will be unable to log out for the duration. Perhaps they can also be made unable to use movement abilities. My solution is in its beginning stages. I'm simply proposing an idea to assist the creation of a better solution.

I haven't created the exact process that the victim will undergo, but it would work along the lines of a "captcha" (Runescape style). This could be anything really. Runescape trivia, for example. During the pickpocket, the victim will have to do something that a bot cannot, in order to resist being pickpocketed for their cursed energy.

Google the word: captcha.
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