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Azi Demonica

Azi Demonica

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It does address your points. If you're dismissive, I can’t help you. You've spent this exchange mostly resorting to exposition followed by accusations.

From what I understand, your claim is that I am passively taking money away from artists.
I do not interfere with anyone’s wages or royalties or ads or revenue. MidJourney’s disclaimer backs this up. I’ve never made any money from AI art.

From what I understand, your claim is I am stealing.
I already mentioned that everything I do is free, backed up by MidJourney’s disclaimer. There’s nothing I do unavailable to anyone. The artists in question also have access to what I do. If there is copyright infringement, I shared MidJourney’s takedown email and will soon add it to my Imgur and Wattpad account details.

From what I understand, your claim is I’m making AI art more popular.
I have no fanbase, no following, no audience. I did not reply to this as my lack of popularity is self-evident and so I felt it was unnecessary.

From what I understand, your claim is I’m wrong and I know it’s wrong.
There are easier ways to call me a thief and a liar XD you really didn’t have to type so much.
I shared MidJourney’s takedown email. I don’t know how else to help you as I’m not a professional. If you don’t practice what you preach, I don’t know what else to do.
I never withheld any info, I never resorted to passive aggressive name calling, I don’t hide behind anonymity, I never accused you or Talesin of anything, I’ve never dismissed or mocked anyone’s points, I’ve never used (as far as I understand) the logical fallacies of sweeping generalization, moral panic, playing the victim, bad faith, scapegoating, gaslighting, or false equivalence.

You may remove all my characters from all your threads.

17-Dec-2022 21:53:12

Inferi

Inferi

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While I don’t care to start arguing on moral responsibility and the like, regardless of how I feel on the subject, I do just want to point out one thing here. Azi, what you’re pointing to as a disclaimer, that you say backs up your claims, is not a disclaimer; it is a legally binding terms-of-use statement, and from what you said in the first post on this page, it seems that you’re interpreting it incorrectly. I would appreciate it if you don’t take this as a personal attack or anything of the like, since I really just want to make sure you understand what the irritating legal bullshit they’re spouting with that actually means.

What it says does not say that it will not interfere with anyone else’s revenue, royalties, etc. What it is saying is that, by using it, you’re saying that anything it makes it can use to do whatever it wants with. That means that it will take anything it wants, make anything it wants, and do whatever it wants with it, including selling it for any sum, using it to make ad revenue, or, well, anything else it wants. In essence, it’s saying “whatever this makes, we own”.

It says absolutely nothing about not taking money away from the artists that it takes the work from, which means that it is, in fact, taking away the income of those that it takes the work from (with exception to works that are open and available for such a thing). You’d never be able to make money from anything it creates, since once it creates something it now owns it and it is the sole entity that can make money from the creation. Done in by the dubious doings of destiny.

18-Dec-2022 23:35:12

Azi Demonica

Azi Demonica

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Oh I don't take it as a personal attack, as I do make mistakes and am open to them. If that statement isn't a disclaimer, then I indeed didn't interpret it correctly. Thank you for correcting me there, I take back all my points regarding that.

If MidJourney owns the material taken from slivers of a preexisting database, they are responsible for whatever legality they come across. I certainly won't use anything by AI for personal monetary gain.

It's been two days and they haven't replied to my email. I may have to query Imgur and Wattpad for more details.

19-Dec-2022 04:27:19

Pink 4 Twink
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Pink 4 Twink

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Hello. =) I sort of forgot to post on Vampyro. I've actually been exhausted lately. Saw my dad for the first time in a month; busy now that Christmas is a few days away. I'm going to try and get some posts up tonight. I have plenty of time with school being over, and all.

So as far as using someone's art on the forums, should I still credit the artist, even though they are making no money? I mean it is publicity and could potentially lead to more business for that artist. The reason I ask is that Vampyro occasionally (where it is appropriate) uses imgur art. I'd rather not screw someone over, and I don't exactly have the best moral compass =/ Just your friendly neighborhood gay boy! =)

20-Dec-2022 00:16:51 - Last edited on 20-Dec-2022 01:56:05 by Pink 4 Twink

NotFishing

NotFishing

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If possible, it won't hurt to spend a minute or two to try to see if you can find the artist and do a quick "art by:" under the image you post.

That might not always be possible, but nothing is lost in making an attempt. Nobody's going to kick down your door and arrest you if you don't. Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

20-Dec-2022 01:04:12 - Last edited on 20-Dec-2022 01:04:29 by NotFishing

Pink 4 Twink
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Pink 4 Twink

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Annie1227 said :
No problem pink.

That’s a good idea fish. Can we stop talking about this topic and role-play?

I agree with her on this. I'm done talking about the topic. And I'm going to try and get a post up, but my bed is so warm and comfy. ^_^ Just your friendly neighborhood gay boy! =)

20-Dec-2022 01:58:33

Westenev

Westenev

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Hmm. I wonder if Truck-kun is an acceptable idea for Angel's thread. The ability to summon trucks that can isekai you seems kinda op tho.
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20-Dec-2022 03:59:40 - Last edited on 20-Dec-2022 04:02:02 by Westenev

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