D F Angel
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This Zarosian turkey looks disturbingly evil
False. Zaros is morally grey (the good kind of grey, not the Saradomin kind), which is clearly explained in The Fate of The Gods Quest that I haven't actually done but seen on Youtube (I've only done Zarosian quests up to Desert Treasure.) Also why is it called Fate of The Gods if it only involves one god (or two, if you count Seren's memories.) Does that imply Zaros is going to kill the other gods or at the very least dramatically alter their paths? Does this all hinge on whether or not you gave Zaros the right body? Is Zaros going to die regardless because writing two completely different paths for a quest sounds challenging? Will there be a Zarosian World Event soon? Will that break the story/immersion for those who haven't done Fate of The God(s)? Wouldn't Zaros be able to defeat all the gods except Seren and maybe Saradomin because he's Tier 2 and everyone else is like Tier 4, except Tier 3 Saradomin? They would need an alliance or something for that right? Will Zaros stop being salty about his showdown with Zamorak and tell us what happened? Will Zaros, Zamorak, or the player get to kill Saradomin because that guy is the worst. Like, I did that F2P quest and refused to give him the wand, so be was all like: "You dare to defy a god!!!!11one" Also I haven't even done that quest where Guthix died so that's going to be a total immersion breaker if I ever get a membership and try that quest. Anyways, you're just an Armadillo worshipper.
Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.
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NotFishing
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Honestly, there isn't a lot to do on Into The Fire. No offense, but all I have to write about is to either make Joric stand next to Etheldredda, potentially delivering a pun about either Conleth's arrival or Annie getting angry at Fredic*. And also have Brodus continue the banter between Team Evil, which at this point is pretty much just "Hey, how many bad things have you done this past month?"
Both of those plots feel like they are starting to stagnate. Again, no offense. And there's still nothing on the Ogre Wars.
None taken my friend. But considering that fight scenes have only just ended in both scenarios, I don't think it would flow well for us to be running straight towards the next adventure. I'll certainly be moving Team Evil on in the next post, (perhaps I should have done it in my most recent post, I'm not sure, I was tired at the time and most likely made more than a few blundering mistakes,) but with the battle with the troll having only just ended with Team Good, I don't think it would be appropriate for us to be moving on just yet.
The point of non-battle sequences is to get some character development in, explain backgrounds and motives, thoughts and feelings, and either bond or develop animosity towards your fellow travelling companions. There's little point to roleplaying if no one is actually going to interact with each other. If you want Team Evil to be more than "how many bad things have you done this past month?" then feel free to add something new to the discussion.
And thank you for notifying me about Ogre Wars; I would never have known otherwise.
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Zaros thinks because he was made directly by the elder gods that he has the right to rule over everything. He says he's doing it for everyone's best interests, but never actually asks his subjects what they would want to do. His modus operandi is to operate from the shadows and manipulate people instead of giving them free choice.
Fate of the Gods refers more to the elder gods than to the younger gods. I know Jagex don't want to have a Zarosian World Event, as again, he prefers to work in the shadows rather than out in the open. The God-Tier rankings demonstrates raw power, but not skill or individual abilities. Zaros has more energy at his disposal but that doesn't mean he can wipe out anyone he wants, otherwise he would have never been defeated by Zamorak in the first place.
And as far as I'm aware, Zaros doesn't care much about Zamorak's betrayal anymore. Zaros no longer wants to be the head of an empire, but rather the man behind the man that pulls all of the strings, so Zamorak has just put Zaros in the perfect place to enact this.
D F Angel
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Zaros thinks because he was made directly by the elder gods that he has the right to rule over everything. He says he's doing it for everyone's best interests, but never actually asks his subjects what they would want to do. His modus operandi is to operate from the shadows and manipulate people instead of giving them free choice.
Every other god thinks that because they happen to be a god they also have the right to rule over everything, or at the very least force their philosophy upon everything. Even Armadyl who claims to want gods and mortals working together still has to uphold law and justice, the two things he embodies, which means destroying those who continue to fight him. So a very devout Saradominist, Zamorakian, or Zarosian that refuses to bow to his will? Gone.
Zaros isn't so much about what the people want as he is about what he thinks is best for them, but all the gods are like that. Zaros wants efficiency. He sees a race that struggles with infertility, so he tries to fix it, for example. Also Zaros isn't really forcing his will on anyone - his dialogue seemed to imply his plans were to just guide mortals along, nudging them in what he thinks is the right direction but they can still turn away if they want. There is still choice there. And isn't acting as an adviser to the mortals at least somewhat similar to what Armadyl wants - for gods and mortals to live in peaceful co-operation? But Armadyl is just out in the open and Zaros is in the shadows.
D F Angel
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And as far as I'm aware, Zaros doesn't care much about Zamorak's betrayal anymore.
It's clear he is at least somewhat upset by it, as evidenced by his refusal to talk about it. He may not care for revenge but getting beat by a mortal like that probably made him a bit ******. Let's not forget he had thousands of years to calm down.
Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.
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NotFishing
So Seren and Guthix weren't good, even though both sacrificed themselves for what they thought was right? Zaros, Saradomin, and even Zamorak don't have good intentions? Armadyl never does anything that is controversial, selfish, or puts innocent lives in danger?
Armadyl considers himself the embodiment of law and justice. But what constitutes justice, exactly? And what should be legal or illegal? Aside from the fact that he doesn't like violence unless absolutely necessary, we know very little about his sense of morality. As I have already said, he is going to have to kill or imprison those who stand in his way.
Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.
OK Seer, I'll wait a bit. And thank-you Kalaya for stopping by, I think the merge was a great idea, it was so nice for the mods to do that.
Well then, I seem to be wholly ignorant of RS deities, I miss the old days when Zamorak looked like Satan, Saradomin looked like an Abrahamic prophet, and Guthix was a floating jelly fish skull.
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Well then, I seem to be wholly ignorant of RS deities, I miss the old days when Zamorak looked like Satan, Saradomin looked like an Abrahamic prophet, and Guthix was a floating jelly fish skull.
Zamorak still sort of looks like a demon, but Saradomin is a smurf (a very tall arrogant looking smurf with a crown), Guthix was a bluish green giant, Armadyl is a giant bird, Bandos was a suit of armor, and Zaros is a purple guy wearing some combination of armor and robes.
Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.