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Gunslinger Z

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Exactly, and the guys who sign the legislation which affects that get free healthcare on the taxpayer's dime. Funny how that works ain't it? The opposite of most nations. But God forbid the Koch Brothers can't afford another mansion, yacht or small country worth of land. We've all gotta tighten our belts and sacrifice a little for them.

02-Aug-2018 03:04:41

Azi Demonica

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And then there are pastors who have hundreds of millions of dollars. Jesus never made much money, and said something like, ''Giver unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar. Give unto God what belongs to God." Of course, the Catholic Church is also guilty of this, not just Baptise Christian or Protestant pastors. Everything is a money-grabbing game.

02-Aug-2018 05:38:19

Gunslinger Z

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Yup. Mark 12:17. And most of us know what happened to the people exchanging money in the temple. Christ didn't care much for that. Also, a lot of 'holy rollers' as I call them are always in church, always in the front row, always whooping and hollering and claiming to be Godly, but they're the first to do some backhanded or nasty things to other people. They make a big show out of being Christians but they don't act like it. In the scripture, it's pretty much stated that one doing good deeds not for the sake of good works but for the sake of being seen doing those good deeds by others, they might as well not bother. Also, Matthew 6:6 tells people to pray in solitude and in secret, away from others. A whole lot of people are worried more about portraying themselves or putting on a show of being Christian, but they don't act or behave like a Christian.

I tend to keep my religion to myself unless I'm asked or someone engages me about it. It was always my understanding that being a Christian, one should endeavor to be Christ-like. Most of the things most 'Christians' I see do isn't Christ-like at all. They're angry, unforgiving, greedy, vain, judgmental and prideful. Pride goeth before a fall and what-not. Of course, nobody can really be and live exactly like Christ. But I always thought that was the point.

I converted last year and my life's been pretty good since.

02-Aug-2018 06:12:11

Azi Demonica

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Westenev said :
And in exchange, the powers that be gave us alcohol.

I call it a fair trade. XD this made me chuckle!


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Ah, yes, 'holy hollers', what a great phrase, they sure are the ones most likely to do some creepy or nasty things. Good points, but yes, that's quite a lot of what American Christianity is about. It seems like it's about appearing and not actually doing . Similarly, amidst all this political polarization, people freak out about your opinions or words, rather than considering your actions. I'm starting to think that social media, and online interactions, are making people not be able to understand human beings!

Indeed, many Christians are like that. Christian means 'little Christ', it's about being better and nicer, that's it. Of course, there are many who will holler and moan and bitch about bible verses, but there's more to it than that. Face-value complaining is almost as bad as dogmatism, because it just separates people from each other.

Excellent, I wish you the best! I was raised in a semi-Catholic environment, but was mostly irreligious. I've been called a Christian, an atheist, a pagan, and I can only imagine what else, but I don't really care. I'm here to be honest and try to be better, that's all. Can't always do it tho, lol.

02-Aug-2018 06:20:09

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I imagine Mathew 6:6 has more to do with the fact that if you were caught praying in ye olde roman days, you'd probably be drawn and quartered by the pagans. But what do I know, I have half a dozen different bibles (including the Quran) in my sitting room, and I can't make heads or tails of any of them. They're interesting reads, for sure, but how people actually remember the stanzas I'll never know. O_o
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02-Aug-2018 06:28:36

Gunslinger Z

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Right, yeah, the politics mixing with religion thing has always mystified me. Besides a few points of politics [like abortion and other moral issues] it really has absolutely nothing to do with politics. In general I think Christ would be quite at odds with the current Republican party. He'd be at odds with the 'more for me, less for thee' mentality that is so prevalent today. I imagine, though, also that he would be at odds with the depravity and degeneracy that the radical leftists like to espouse. There are PLENTY of holy-rollers around where I live. I also live really close to the world's largest Amish population who, I admire their ways and their faith, but I could never live their lifestyle. I'm sure it's not terrible but I just couldn't see doing without all of the modern technology. For the most part they don't do completely without it either, but still. I like electricity, air conditioning, computers and microwaves too much. The Internet is sort of a double-edged sword. Sure, communication has suffered and actual human interaction is much worse for it. But at the same time, you can interact with people on the other side of the planet with a single click. That's pretty neat. Plus the information available to us. But yeah, communication is pretty bad altogether. Seems like the divide just continues to grow.

I can't call myself a traditional, even if I am a Christian. I don't really necessarily believe in a Hell and I don't really think God is keeping score on how many times you cuss, get in a fight, or whatever. I think maybe there's a purgatory of some kind in place of a Hell. I also think people can have a great many righteous paths that lead to a good afterlife. Most religious texts and tenets have value to them. Buddhism in particular. I incorporate meditation and offerings into my religion and a lot of concepts from Christian teachings and otherwise.

02-Aug-2018 06:40:07

Gunslinger Z

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I was an atheist for a long time, then I took LSD the first time and became an agnostic. After that I got involved with Norse Paganism, Deism and Shamanism. All of it kinda expanded my understanding. Then I ended up where I'm at now, primarily a Christian and a follower of Christ, but I find value and knowledge and wisdom in other religion's practices and principles.

I think good works and honesty are the most important things. Do more good to offset what bad you do and work toward a higher understanding and gather wisdom. The world's my church, so I seldom go into a building to sing hymns or pray with other people. We've all got our own path to travel. I do sometimes get aggravated at the 'edgelord' atheists you run into a lot on the Internet, but in general I respect their stance. I was like them for a time.

I'm basically in the same boat though. I just try to live my life the best I can. Do good for others and do good by myself so I can keep doing good for others. I plan to do a lot more when I can.

02-Aug-2018 06:44:27

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