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Westenev

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Inferi said :
NotFishing said :
Cassandra is literally the worst character in the game. You're better off without her.


You're just wrong. Cassandra is not awful by any means.


+1

If anything, I hate Blackwall, Vivienne and Sera. Sera's a child, Vivienne is a pompous bitch and Blackwall thoroughly disapproves of snarky inquisitor. On the other hand, Cassandra approves of Snarky Inquisitor… so she’s fine in my books!
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03-Jun-2018 00:52:47

NotFishing

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Inferi said :

You're just wrong. Cassandra is not awful by any means.


-Threatened to execute Solas if he did not produce results.
-Disapproves if you peacefully resolve the Orlesian succession crisis.
-Becomes a drunk if you make decisions she disagrees with.
-Completely dismissive to whatever faction you just allied with/took control of.
-Gets mad at Varric for not giving her Hawke's location, even though he had valid reasons for not doing so.
-Even before the Hawke fiasco, Cass never liked Varric because... why, exactly? He's a bit sarcastic?
-Thinks that banishing the Grey Wardens from Orlais is actually a good idea.

She never faces any consequences for these actions. At all. Compared to other characters who actually do face the consequences for their awful decisions.

Westenev said :

I hate Blackwall


This is an act of war.

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Honestly, if you think Blackwall can't banter, put him with Ironbull, Sera, or Cole.
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03-Jun-2018 00:56:48 - Last edited on 03-Jun-2018 01:08:09 by NotFishing

Westenev

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To be fair, I think Cassandra has been battling through bouts of depression throughout the game. Her respectable autority figure is dead, the chantry considers her a heretic, and the Seekers no longer exist. Regardless, she’s driven enough to start an inquisition and follow through. She has earned the right to have a few bad decisions.

Cassandra is a straightforward and pragmatic person who likes playing "bad cop" to hide her softer nature; I'm not surprised that she thinks having more skilled manpower might have stopped the explosion at the conclave. Hell, at the end of Dragon Age 2, she even provides a fairly valid reason why she needed Hawke.

Though, to be fair, I agree with Varric - Hawke would probably be dead if s/he went to the conclave. As Dragon Age: Inquisiton shows, plot armour only works in your own dedicated game (and sometimes not even then *cough* Origins *cough*).
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03-Jun-2018 01:16:48 - Last edited on 03-Jun-2018 01:20:31 by Westenev

Inferi

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EDIT: Also what West said. ^

Why isn't she allowed to not like Varric...? Varric is a pain in the ass that never tells you anything important and spends the majority of his time spewing hot air about absolutely nothing.

And so your problems are...what, exactly? I'm not seeing anything in there that's a crippling character flaw. Pretty much all of them are just: yeah, that's something entirely reasonable that someone in her position would do.

I mean, if your argument is simply that you don't like her, that's not something I can argue with, but I can only see one, maybe two, of those reasons there actually being things that should actually have any major consequences at all.
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03-Jun-2018 01:20:07 - Last edited on 03-Jun-2018 01:20:42 by Inferi

Westenev

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I don't think anyone likes Varric, everyone seems to have bad things to say about him. He's like the new Oghrin, only less drunk.

(I, for one, actually like both characters)
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03-Jun-2018 01:21:19 - Last edited on 03-Jun-2018 01:21:52 by Westenev

Inferi

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I liked Oghrin. He was amusing, even over the top so, but it always seemed perfectly natural. Varric feels a bit more...forced, possibly. It's not that I really dislike him, but I never really loved him all that much. There's plenty of characters both in DA2 and DA:I that I like better. Done in by the dubious doings of destiny.

03-Jun-2018 01:27:38

NotFishing

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Westenev said :
To be fair, I think Cassandra has been battling through bouts of depression throughout the game. Her respectable autority figure is dead, the chantry considers her a heretic, and the Seekers no longer exist. Regardless, she’s driven enough to start an inquisition and follow through. She has earned the right to have a few bad decisions.


There's "a few bad decisions" and then there's threatening to execute an ally.

Westenev said :
I don't think anyone likes Varric, everyone seems to have bad things to say about him.


Any companion with a strong sense of humor likes him.

Cole does too.
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03-Jun-2018 01:32:01

Westenev

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I like having Varric around, but he's just not powerful enough to justify having around. Rogue was my favourite class in DA2, mainly because I think it fits Hawke's nature better. Many of the foes Hawke faces hide behind minions, and have done such appalling things that they deserve to die on the spot. Assassin Hawke can oblige. Naturally, there's no place for 2 rogues in a party.

I tried playing this way in DA:I, but I swear they neutered rogues. Locked doors are now loose walls or veil fire, and their DPS is crap compared to mages or 2h warriors. Even if you manage to flank an enemy, and you're always so damn squishy and most enemies seem to have a 270 or 360 degree attacks. It pisses me off that DA:I made Mage's OP FOR THE THIRD TIME, though the laser sword does placate me some.

It doesn't help that Varric feels the need to run into a melee like he's weilding a short ranged shotgun in Inquisition. I can't figure out why he's doing this, so I have to spend time micromanaging him and telling him not to charge.
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03-Jun-2018 01:37:52

Inferi

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My first DA:I hardest difficulty playthrough was with a rogue that used bows. I can't remember most of how it went because I didn't enjoy it all that much, but it didn't feel like they were absurdly weak.

Of course, I also just don't care enough to figure out what the best combinations of everything is, so my characters are always sub-par when it comes to the overall OP power level. I also don't have any issue with mages being strong because, given the lore, they absolutely should be. I also just like mages the most anyways.
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03-Jun-2018 01:44:06

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