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Azi Demonica

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About fictionalized drugs,
I never played FC5, but I've also never seen dancing pink elephants from my drug use. Never took acid, but did marijuana. Nothing happened, ever, not even once. Sometimes, everything wound seem to be pulsating forward and backward, but I never had hallucinations. But ya, since games and novels must have shortcuts, there's just no time to accurately depict things how they are; people do not seem interested in that.

In my experience regarding literature, for example, it seems most people are not interested in: description, history, accurate martial arts, imaginative themes, or even any sense of reality. I noticed a similar theme when I made oral presentations in college/university. One time, I was talking about guns and martial arts of World War 1, and basically the entire class focused on their laptops. Another time, I made a mock oral presentation, disagreeing with reality in relation to post-World War 2, and the entire class was glued to me. It made me realize that that's essentially the reason charlatans, snake oil salesmen, pastors, and scammers can be so successful. It also encouraged me to take things more seriously, and not fool around while pretending to be serious.

Overall, I think the reason drugs and whatnot are portrayed in a very inaccurate manner, is either to base it on a cliché, or to make a shortcut (magic, as Not said) because no one's gonna care anyways.

31-May-2018 20:33:51 - Last edited on 31-May-2018 20:34:15 by Azi Demonica

Westenev

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I hear that the drug of choice in far cry 5 is similar to (or based on) Datura, not weed or acid. But this is third hand experience.



Huh. Took a quick glance at the "Kingnoob" series someone bumped to the front page. It kind of reminds me of when I was a noob torching tutorial island. I feel almost nostalgic enough to log in... but every time I do, I'm hit with microtransactions (that now replaces seasonal events), a defunct f2p economy and "buy membership NAOW" message whenever I click on anything.
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31-May-2018 23:29:03 - Last edited on 01-Jun-2018 00:50:32 by Westenev

NotFishing

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Westenev said :
I hear that the drug of choice in far cry 5 is similar to (or based on) Datura, not weed or acid. But this is third hand experience.


It was Datura that was modified with the help of a guy who made other drugs. There's a side mission where you kill him. Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

01-Jun-2018 04:40:21

Westenev

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I always loved how Farcry protagonists always deal with villains while inside of some drug fueled rage. There's always so much... disco.
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01-Jun-2018 08:36:26 - Last edited on 01-Jun-2018 08:38:12 by Westenev

Westenev

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Y'know, between Guthix, Zaros, the maker and even IRL pantheons, what is the appeal in a god that abandons humanity like a fire and forget weapon? I mean, why cant cthullu fight for us for a change?

I mean, I get the reasoning... but why are they so endearing?
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01-Jun-2018 12:52:26 - Last edited on 01-Jun-2018 12:56:41 by Westenev

NotFishing

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Westenev said :

I mean, I get the reasoning... but why are they so endearing?


It depends on context.

The characters of Runescape didn't know that Guthix was trying to stay away from them.

Zaros technically did abandon his followers in the sense that he was absent from his throne, but that led to Zamorak's rebellion, so there were consequences. After that, his absence was forced instead of voluntary, and only a handful of his followers remained loyal.

For the Maker, a key part of the religion is that they may one day earn his forgiveness if they can spread the Chant to all corners of the world.

With most IRL ancient pantheons, gods were revered because they are are believed to grant favor to their worshippers. And they are depicted as petty and vengeful in order to justify why even the loyal followers might sometimes get shit on.

Westenev said :
I always loved how Farcry protagonists always deal with villains while inside of some drug fueled rage. There's always so much... disco.

No rage and no disco in this one.

Just... see for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsTI7Ljmm3Y Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

01-Jun-2018 17:58:17 - Last edited on 01-Jun-2018 17:59:06 by NotFishing

Gunslinger Z

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West, that actually does sound quite similar to Datura. It's a deliriant dissociative, sort of similar to nutmeg and ketamine and phencyclidine [PCP] but it acts more firmly deliriant than any of those. Sort of like fly agaric/amanita muscaria mushrooms which contain ibotenic acid [similar to ibogaine] and muscimol. They are far away from your standard 'magic' mushrooms as most magic mushrooms contain psilocybin and psilocin. A lot of people make that mistake.

Datura is a strange one. Also known as Devil's Trumpet, Jimson weed, or it's official name, datura stramomium. They are a part of the nightshade family. They typically cause flushing, delirium, fever, dry mouth, profuse sweating and psychotic type hallucinations which seem real. After taking them, people often talk to people who aren't there, travel through memories as if they're real, and due to the state of delirium they induce, the hallucinations seem entirely real. Even at low doses they tend to do this, whereas with other hallucinogens, a person under their influence can usually differentiate between the effects of the drug and reality unless they've taken very high doses. Datura is one of the few psychedelics I haven't touched and have no plans to. Nutmeg is an ugly one too. They can be deadly and experiences with them can be very troubling and disturbing, so they're pretty far removed from more traditional hallucinogens. Datura in particular is apparently used in the practice of voodoo. It's been said to be involved in a sort of 'zombie' medicine that they make which makes a person seem dead and answer to the will of their 'master' no matter what. Usually it's combined with tetrodotoxin [the venom of the puffer fish] to those ends.

This kind of stuff is really interesting to me as I used to be called a shaman or medicine man by many people, and I've studied this sort of stuff at length. I've had experience with quite a few entheogens.

01-Jun-2018 23:41:34

NotFishing

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Also, it's hard to see (due to the blurry hallucination effect), but the villain who is primarily responsible for producing and selling the stuff has a tattoo on her arm, which is the chemical composition of a drug that is made from Datura. Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

02-Jun-2018 00:45:17 - Last edited on 02-Jun-2018 00:45:32 by NotFishing

Westenev

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Trust voodoo to find a way to make drugs kinky.

In other news...


> Makes a Rogue in DA:I
> Gets to skyhold, sees specialisations.
> Realises mages have "knight-enchanter"
> Deletes rogue and makes a mage named "Shiro Emiya"

I don't know why, but mages with swords are cool. O_o
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02-Jun-2018 07:16:48 - Last edited on 02-Jun-2018 07:19:07 by Westenev

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